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My mother believes in Jesus more than in me
#51
RE: My mother believes in Jesus more than in me
(April 14, 2018 at 9:38 am)Chad32 Wrote:
(April 14, 2018 at 9:20 am)Aegon Wrote: Sounds high key to me

If that's considered low key, what do you think high key looks like?

I don't even know man, sometimes I use slang based solely off context clues but I don't know what they really mean.
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#52
RE: My mother believes in Jesus more than in me
(April 13, 2018 at 2:07 am)suffering23 Wrote: My mom and I were low-key arguing when I said she believed in Jesus Christ more than she believes in me.

There was no hesitation or second thought. She puts Jesus before her children.

I feel cheap and hopeless. I cannot process it. I do not want a relationship with her anymore.

Someone please make me feel better

That's not uncommon in Christianity, in fact, it's considered a ''duty'' to put one's relationship with Jesus before family. The thought behind that is that you'll be an even better spouse/friend/partner/parent, etc if you do this. I don't think she meant it to harm you. It's just part of that belief system.
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#53
RE: My mother believes in Jesus more than in me
The OP reminded me of something that irks me about religion. The whole "God first" thing, as is encapsulated by the story of Issac and Abraham.

I always wondered what it meant to put God before family. Like, in instances where God is not instructing you to kill your child, how do you actually do that?

One being (God) is the supreme cosmic power in all existence. He doesn't really need anything. The other being (your family member) has a multitude of needs; your child for instance, depends on you for nearly everything. Seems like family should win out every time for who gets taken care of first.

Triage in a medical setting demonstrates how best to maximize the amount of help given when there is more than one individual in need of care. Among the people who can be helped, one selects the person who is in most need of attention first, and the person who has little need for attention last.

If believers made sure that everyone else was taken care of before moving on to give God praise... if its main tenet was to help those around you as much as possible--then help God... it might actually be a moral enterprise. As it stands now, it is little more than a source of moral confusion. Oftentimes urging people to act to the detriment of their fellow human beings in order to serve a divine master.
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#54
RE: My mother believes in Jesus more than in me
It's pretty narcissistic. He supposedly doesn't need anything from you, but demands your best, before you're allowed to share with people who actually have use for it.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#55
RE: My mother believes in Jesus more than in me
(April 13, 2018 at 7:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(April 13, 2018 at 3:25 pm)Astreja Wrote: S23, the only practical solution I can see for your problem is to somehow emancipate yourself from your mother.  Research local resources pertaining to your medical condition, as they may be able to hook you up with people and organizations that can help.

Terrible advice...

You don't know the whole story; I don't trust that were getting the whole truth from someone who refers to themselves as 'Suffering23'.

And *you* don't know the whole story either, Huggy.  You give your advice and I'll give mine, and the OP can decide if either is useful to them.
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#56
RE: My mother believes in Jesus more than in me
(April 13, 2018 at 2:07 am)suffering23 Wrote: My mom and I were low-key arguing when I said she believed in Jesus Christ more than she believes in me.

There was no hesitation or second thought. She puts Jesus before her children.

I feel cheap and hopeless. I cannot process it. I do not want a relationship with her anymore.

Someone please make me feel better

 I have no idea whether you will be back to see this or not, just like I have no idea of your true situation because you have left out so much detail that no one here can make a reasonable attempt to help you despite what some have said. There were a couple of post that were helpful one from a Christian and one from an atheist, both took in consideration that you did not give enough info to actually be helpful so you could get some helpful advice.
  Now let's use what you did say, you are dependent upon your mother for rides and financial things and you see yourself as worthless to her, seems to me you are looking at this from your perspective only. Second you list yourself as an agnostic who has a Christian mother and you come to an atheist sight because why, let's see to get sympathy, right. You got enough sympathy to fill all your pockets yet you come down on most the people here like they mean nothing. To me you seem to be a spoiled brat that has gotten his/her way for far to long and when mom decides she's not going to play your game anymore you sulk up, rebel and expect people to sympathize with you because you are disabled and no longer the most important creature in the world. Guess what you never were as far as the world is concerned and if you take the advice of those who say get out on your own you are going to quickly find out how low you rank on the totem pole, the world will kick you around and believe me I know because my wife and I care for a lady who is 39 years old. When she had to leave home she was kicked around like a tin can for years. She now enjoys a life where she has rights, peace and rules to live by, she doesn't get her way (though she tries) and she has to face discipline on occasion and if you were to ask her where she wants to spend the rest of her life she would tell you with us. She has the mental capacity of a four year old child yet she understands so much more than you do, or thus it seems that way from what you have written. You didn't say much but spoke volumes in the little you did say. If you want real help and not petty then tell the whole story, be honest, if you're not then the advice given is as worthless as the misinformation you might give. Couple more things here, in what you said in the OP you were the one who insisted you were worthless to your mom and, probably because she was hurt by your statement to her said what she did. She was wrong to do so if she did not explain why what she said was true, when we put Christ first in our lives then everyone else becomes more important than they would have been. When we follow Christ as first in our lives we come to understand what loving others actually means for each individual. Now here's my advice set down with your mother and thank her for the care she has given you so she will know that you recognize she does love you and then ask her to explain why she made the statement she did, have a calm discussion then give her a big smile and huge, see what that brings into your life, hopefully more respect for those who care enough to give you your daily needs and more.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#57
RE: My mother believes in Jesus more than in me
Hey OP. You know the saddest part.

Jesus himself doesn't show any favouritism. In fact he doesn't show anything at all. To anyone. Ever. You'd think he'd lead by example or something Dunno

You mum is damaged goods. She's been assimilated by the Borg Gods!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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