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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 12:10 am)Quick Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 12:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: You missed the point that it is both extremely complex and unimaginably specific, thus designed.

What do you think of something like enriched uranium that has unimaginable potential but is ultimately man made? Because I think that enriched uranium fits your criteria for extremely complex and unimaginably specific, yet there really is no indication that such a thing should even exist.
He will blather 

"that's Shannon information and it doesn't count"As his ID masters have trained him to repeat like a parrot .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 12:26 am)Quick Wrote: Why is civility different than divinity?
Why is cat different than dog?  
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(May 6, 2018 at 12:18 am)Khemikal Wrote: I find it difficult to believe in things for which the faithful can give no reason, no explanation, and no example.

No, you don't. The mere fact that you operate in an existence where you only have the tiniest clue of what is going on yet you are still able to do behaviors with predictable outcomes is evidence that you DO in fact take certain knowledges for granted.
As much as I love bickering on the status of me - it;s an argument I can;t really lose, you see....sure, I take things for granted, plenty.

That has no bearing on the difficulty I find in believing things for which the faithful can give no reason, no explanation..and no example.  Hell....you're pretty much arguing with words at this point.  May as well yell at a cloud. My confidence level in your gods existence isn;t exactly going up right now. I was wondering about your god and these experiences no one can rationally explain..and you tell me about how we haven;t killed each other off in a blood orgy, yet.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 5, 2018 at 11:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 5, 2018 at 11:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: So what?  You think shannon info requires a god too. Something being complex -or- simple isn't a difference, to you...and because of this, one thing being simple and one thing being complex is no particular indication of anything. 

You butchered that one.

DNA contains an extremely sophisticated code!  Hence, it is designed.  Debate over, living systems have a Designer.

Holy fuck, but you're tiresome. You refuse to actually engage with anyone and simply make the same bullshit assertions over and over.

Provide the evidence of your assertions or shut the fuck up.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:Why is civility different than divinity?
No the real question you should be asking as anybody would assume the later comes from the former?

Quote:No, you don't. The mere fact that you operate in an existence where you only have the tiniest clue of what is going on yet you are still able to do behaviors with predictable outcomes is evidence that you DO in fact take certain knowledges for granted.
Not the same thing as blindly believing in magic sky pixies . And nothing about predictable outcomes = god . Nor is the ability to operate in reality = god.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Digital code in living systems = Design. This is so obvious, I can't believe we are even discussing it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 12:31 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:
(May 5, 2018 at 11:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote: DNA contains an extremely sophisticated code!  Hence, it is designed.  Debate over, living systems have a Designer.

Holy fuck, but you're tiresome. You refuse to actually engage with anyone and simply make the same bullshit assertions over and over.

Provide the evidence of your assertions or shut the fuck up.
I know right . he seems to think assertions win.

Quote:Digital code in living systems = Design. This is so obvious, I can't believe we are even discussing it.
You keep repeating this and keep knocking it down .Only to have you think use ID bunkum to reassert it .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 12:33 am)CDF47 Wrote: Digital code in living systems = Design.  This is so obvious, I can't believe we are even discussing it.

It;s not...but why would it matter if it were?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 12:29 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 12:26 am)Quick Wrote: Why is civility different than divinity?
Why is cat different than dog? 

I could argue they fit under multiple same categories.

(May 6, 2018 at 12:29 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 12:26 am)Quick Wrote: No, you don't. The mere fact that you operate in an existence where you only have the tiniest clue of what is going on yet you are still able to do behaviors with predictable outcomes is evidence that you DO in fact take certain knowledges for granted.
As much as I love bickering on the status of me - it;s an argument I can;t really lose, you see....sure, I take things for granted, plenty.

That has no bearing on the difficulty I find in believing things for which the faithful can give no reason, no explanation..and no example.  Hell....you're pretty much arguing with words at this point.  May as well yell at a cloud. My confidence level in your gods existence isn;t exactly going up right now.

No, what you are doing is using you belief in an antithetical to say you don't believe in the antithesis to what you believe. I am not here to convince you of anything M8 Smile
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 12:33 am)CDF47 Wrote: Digital code in living systems = Design.  This is so obvious, I can't believe we are even discussing it.

You can't even figure out how you're abusing the term digital yet you want us to take everything you say at face value. Fuck that!

Are you ever going to actually reply to any of the posts I've made beyond your one lame answer?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 6, 2018 at 12:36 am)Quick Wrote:
(May 6, 2018 at 12:29 am)Khemikal Wrote: Why is cat different than dog? 

I could argue they fit under multiple same categories.
I;m sure you could...but why Quick...why....lol?

I get that you're not here fishing for men, like our boy CDF (and I appreciate that, btw)...I just don;t know that what you just communicated about your beliefs was instructive. 

I bet there;s a better way to communicate whatever it is you're trying to say.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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