Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 11, 2024, 8:02 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 10 Vote(s) - 1.8 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 3:36 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Your being incapable of imagining yourself as having a problem is hardly surprising.  Just another failure of your own imagination.

Not my problem, not gods problem.  Own your own shit.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree.  You think I have a problem and I think you have a problem.
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 12:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Evil came when the devil and his followers rebelled against God using their own free will.  It is part of the ultimate reality as I said.  
N/A
I believe it is based on Scripture and science even if some or the majority of scientists disagree.

But if god made all things good, that implies then that good included evil, how if god made all things good could evil possibly have come into the world free will or not  ?

What you are saying is that god either lost control, and the perfection he created was far from it.
Or he created evil.
Or there is no god and it's all nonsense

Ultimate reality is a meaningless phrase.

Free will is certainly implied in scripture, but scripture being fantasy cannot be used as evidence when talking outside theology.
This is why we have science to help describe reality.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Let me lay it out for you, real simple CDF...and I hope I;m not wasting my time with you like god has (so far) wasted his.

You externalize the failures of your own imagination by the simple act of offering an argument from incredulity or ignorance.  That;s the general context of this entire thread.

You further compound this pattern by externalizing the failures of your own imagination and your own scientific illiteracy into demands of god.  That god must have made this ID shit, which doesn;t actually exist.  That you believe in a god that did something that isn;t real.  This reduces your god to fiction, but only because you make such a demand and refuse to consider any fact of the matter...because you "disagree".

The trifecta, the holy trinity, really twisting the knife..though, is that you came here, to an atheist board..to fish for men.  You found yourself making a complete mockery of god and arguing with an atheist who was trying to defend your god..and then externalized the blame for your own failure in that regard, to "debate tricksters" and "spiritual blindness".

It;s you............. it;s all you, and it;s always been you.  

Do you understand?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 3:39 pm)possibletarian Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 12:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Evil came when the devil and his followers rebelled against God using their own free will.  It is part of the ultimate reality as I said.  
N/A
I believe it is based on Scripture and science even if some or the majority of scientists disagree.

Ultimate reality is a meaningless phrase.

But if god made all things good, that implies then that good included evil, how if god made all things good could evil possibly have come into the world free will or not  ?

What you are saying is that god either lost control, and the perfection he created was far from it.
Or he created evil.
Or there is no god and it's all nonsense

God said what He made was good, not perfect.  Good does not include evil.  Evil came in after the fall of man.  There was also evil when the devil and his followers rebelled against God.

Man learned the truth about good and evil after the fall.  Evil was already present as the devil had at sometime in the past rebelled against God which is why the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was present in Eden to begin with.

In the end, the Bible states death and hell will be cast into the lake of fire as the second death.  This may mean that evil is destroyed along with this universe and all wicked people and beings.

(May 16, 2018 at 3:42 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Let me lay it out for you, real simple CDF...and I hope I;m not wasting my time with you like god has (so far) wasted his.  

You externalize the failures of your own imagination by the simple act of offering an argument from incredulity or ignorance.  That;s the general context of this entire thread.

You further compound this pattern by externalizing the failures of your own imagination and your own scientific illiteracy into demands of god.  That god must have made this ID shit, which doesn;t actually exist.  That you believe in a god that did something that isn;t real.  This reduces your god to fiction, but only because you make such a demand and refuse to consider any fact of the matter...because you "disagree".

The trifecta, the holy trinity, really twisting the knife..though, is that you came here, to an atheist board..to fish for men.  You found yourself making a complete mockery of god and arguing with an atheist who was trying to defend your god..and then externalized the blame for your own failure in that regard, to "debate tricksters" and "spiritual blindness".

It;s you............. it;s all you, and it;s always been you.  

Do you understand?

No, I do not understand.  You are spinning blame on to me for your own scientific and spiritual blindness.  That is my opinion.
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Directly contradcting yourself in one breath.   Rolleyes

Make up your mind, did evil come at the pre fall rebellion or after the fall?  If it came in after the fall than the pre fall rebellion was not evil.  If it came in at the rebellion than the existence of evil is, in fact, not an effect of the fall.



Quote:No, I do not understand.
Unsurprising.

Quote:  You are spinning blame on to me for your own scientific and spiritual blindness.  That is my opinion.
Did I make you offer an argument from ignorance?

No.

Did I force you to make ludicrous and demonstrably false demands of god?  

No.

Have I insisted that you continue to make arguments from ignorance or ludicrous and demonstrably false demands of god?

No..quite the opposite.

All..........................you....but all you can talk about is -my- spiritual blindess, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 3:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Directly contradcting yourself in one breath.   Rolleyes

Make up your mind, did evil come at the pre fall rebellion or after the fall?  If it came in after the fall than the pre fall rebellion was not evil.  If it came in at the rebellion than the existence of evil is, in fact, not mans fault.



Quote:No, I do not understand.
Unsurprising.

Quote:  You are spinning blame on to me for your own scientific and spiritual blindness.  That is my opinion.
Did I make you offer an argument from ignorance?

No.

Did I force you to make ludicrous and demonstrably false demands of god?  

No.

Have I insisted that you continue to make arguments from ignorance or ludicrous and demonstrably false demands of god?

No..quite the opposite.

All..........................you....but all you can talk about is -my- spiritual blindess, lol.

Evil existed before the fall of man since the tree of knowledge of good and evil was there from the beginning.  Hence, the devil must have rebelled prior to man's existence.  

I have done none of what you accuse me of.  I just brought proof of a Creator based on the information in DNA to create machines,...
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 3:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I have done none of what you accuse me of.  I just brought proof of a Creator based on the information in DNA to create machines,...

Directly contradicting yourself in one breath, again....and did I make you do that?  

No.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
The stupid continues to reach new levels.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote: Evil came in after the fall of man.  
Quote:Evil existed before the fall of man

-Which one of these two assholes is right?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 3:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I have done none of what you accuse me of.  I just brought proof of a Creator based on the information in DNA to create machines,...

Directly contradicting yourself in one breath, again....and did I make you do that?  

No.

In the Bible, God instructs His people to search for Him in the creation.  I have done that and found His signature in DNA.

(May 16, 2018 at 3:56 pm)Joods Wrote: The stupid continues to reach new levels.

Says a non-believer.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Spontaneous assembly of DNA from precursor molecules prior to life. Anomalocaris 4 1192 April 4, 2019 at 6:12 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Music and DNA tahaadi 4 1586 September 29, 2018 at 4:35 am
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  Dr. Long proves life after death or no? Manga 27 8206 April 27, 2017 at 4:59 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  "DNA Labelling!" aka American Idiots Davka 28 8501 February 4, 2015 at 1:45 am
Last Post: Aractus
  A new atheist's theories on meta-like physical existence freedeepthink 14 4300 October 1, 2014 at 1:35 am
Last Post: freedeepthink
  Do the multiverse theories prove the existence of... Mudhammam 3 2353 January 12, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Last Post: Esquilax
  Yeti DNA sequenced Doubting Thomas 2 1564 October 17, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  Science Proves God Pahu 3 2136 August 2, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Last Post: Jackalope
  New Human DNA Strain Detected Minimalist 10 5386 July 27, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Last Post: popeyespappy
  Junk DNA and creationism little_monkey 0 2081 December 3, 2011 at 9:23 am
Last Post: little_monkey



Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)