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#21
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 2:22 am
Welcome, Willie.

Are you an orca?

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#22
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 4:53 am
*intro thread...must...be...nice*

Welcome.

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#23
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 8:04 am
And the Dad Joke of the Year Award goes to......

(May 18, 2018 at 2:22 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Welcome, Willie.

Are you an orca?
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#24
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 8:36 am
(May 18, 2018 at 1:52 am)Succubus Wrote:
(May 17, 2018 at 7:41 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Welcome matey...

Yeah, the only friendly disagreements is basically how confident (and as always, based on evidence) we believe no god(s) exist.
(I'm ignostic. I, like many here don't even understand the question in any meaningful way!)

Arguing with us is arguing against science books ... We are not the enemy. Logic and science is. We make no claims whatsoever.

I nominate this post for, err, some sort of nomination.


My bold.

Is it because immediately after making a broad and generlizes claim, the poster then claims that he is making no claims?
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#25
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 8:43 am (This post was last modified: May 18, 2018 at 8:45 am by ignoramus.)
Sorry, my bad. I meant we make no extra ordinary claims!

(didn't realize that stating the obvious was a claim that needed some kind of proving. Dunno)
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#26
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 9:01 am
(May 18, 2018 at 8:43 am)ignoramus Wrote: Sorry, my bad. I meant we make no extra ordinary claims!

(didn't realize that stating the obvious was a claim that needed some kind of proving. Dunno)

I would disagree with both; so yes, it is a claim, that needs supported.
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#27
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 9:10 am
(May 18, 2018 at 8:43 am)ignoramus Wrote: Sorry, my bad. I meant we make no extra ordinary claims!

(didn't realize that stating the obvious was a claim that needed some kind of proving. Dunno)

Indeed. If we stick to the null hypothesis* we have no need for outrageous claims.

*God does not exist.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#28
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 11:26 am
“You kind of have to believe in "something" for there to be internal disagreements about that "something". Atheism isn;t about believing in something. See the disconnect?”
—Khemikal

Not really, it seems to me that believing in no god is believing “something”.

IMHO, Science exists to prove the existence of a God, and it does. So I don’t see myself fighting science, I see myself fighting scientists that have a little religion of their own. I mean, does science really prove, for example, the theory of evolution. I mean, lots of animals adapt to new situations, but that’s not evolution. Like the birds on the Galápagos Islands, which is what my science teacher used to try to tell me about evolution. But where is the actual solid evidence for a creature evolving into a completely new creature. Because if it’s true that everything started as a single organism or cell, and now there are millions of species and different creatures...seriously!? Sounds crazy to me.

And what about “pre-history”...it doesn’t fit. There is clear evidence of a world wide flood, and many old books speak of a huge flood, not just the Bible.

My point with all that is this: I can’t find any evidence of many theory’s that scientists and atheist put forth to deny the existence of God.

For example:
-evolution
-the Big Bang
-pre history

So that’s one reason I believe in God, The evidence is all around.
-Willie

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#29
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 11:40 am
(May 18, 2018 at 11:26 am)Willie23 Wrote: “You kind of have to believe in "something" for there to be internal disagreements about that "something". Atheism isn;t about believing in something. See the disconnect?”
—Khemikal

Not really, it seems to me that believing in no god is believing “something”.  

IMHO, Science exists to prove the existence of a God, and it does. So I don’t see myself fighting science, I see myself fighting scientists that have a little religion of their own.  I mean, does science really prove, for example, the theory of evolution.  I mean, lots of animals adapt to new situations, but that’s not evolution.  Like the birds on the Galápagos Islands, which is what my science teacher used to try to tell me about evolution.  But where is the actual solid evidence for a creature evolving into a completely new creature.  Because if it’s true that everything started as a single organism or cell, and now there are millions of species and different creatures...seriously!? Sounds crazy to me.

And what about “pre-history”...it doesn’t fit.  There is clear evidence of a world wide flood, and many old books speak of a huge flood, not just the Bible.  

My point with all that is this: I can’t find any evidence of many theory’s that scientists and atheist put forth to deny the existence of God.

For example:
-evolution
-the Big Bang
-pre history

So that’s one reason I believe in God, The evidence is all around.

Theists make the claim, now it's that old burden of proof thing on the theists. 

Scientists are not putting forth theories to disprove god. They occasionally use these theories to dismiss the need for the existence of a god(s) but that is not the theories original intent/purpose.
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#30
RE: Those Theists
May 18, 2018 at 11:40 am
(May 18, 2018 at 9:01 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(May 18, 2018 at 8:43 am)ignoramus Wrote: Sorry, my bad. I meant we make no extra ordinary claims!

(didn't realize that stating the obvious was a claim that needed some kind of proving. Dunno)

I would disagree with  both; so yes, it is a claim, that needs supported.

So is your dead jew coming back to life but you clowns seem oblivious to that one.
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