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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 7, 2018 at 3:31 pm
What further privation would be possible if he thinks that his immense intellectual prowess and the very truth of god himself is being stymied by a bunch of carnival barkers?
There are only so many stairs you can fall down until you finally hit the basement floor.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 7, 2018 at 3:47 pm
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(June 7, 2018 at 3:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: What further privation would be possible if he thinks that his immense intellectual prowess and the very truth of god himself is being stymied by a bunch of carnival barkers?
There are only so many stairs you can fall down until you finally hit the basement floor.
I learned long ago that if you think you've hit bottom and things can't get any worse, life will usually surprise you in that regard.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 7, 2018 at 3:49 pm
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For a being capable of mustering the necessary congnizance for surprise, perhaps. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 7, 2018 at 6:16 pm
(June 7, 2018 at 3:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: There are only so many stairs you can fall down until you finally hit the basement floor.
(starts searching the Yellow Pages for "Jackhammer rentals") 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 7, 2018 at 6:21 pm
(June 7, 2018 at 6:16 pm)Astreja Wrote: (June 7, 2018 at 3:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: There are only so many stairs you can fall down until you finally hit the basement floor.
(starts searching the Yellow Pages for "Jackhammer rentals")
You assume effort is required to facilitate falling lower than rock bottom. That implies simple laziness will prevent one from finding oneself in a predicament worse than the worst.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 7, 2018 at 10:01 pm
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Quote:Hawkings' calculations show infinite space curvature at the Big Bang. Thus, no space. How much matter and energy can fit in no space? Zero.
Continuing to repeat the strawman will not help you
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 8, 2018 at 12:26 am
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"You make me shill like I'm the only troll in the world..."
What exactly am I shilling for? I think he's still under the impression that atheism is some sort of alternative institution to Christianity.
I don't care if life is designed. I don't care if God exists. I don't care if Christianity is true. I don't expect anyone to agree with me just because I say so. I make it very clear I do not have all the answers. I don't care what religions or beliefs people have as long as they don't hurt people or tell other people what to do.
I am able to provisionally accept all scientific theory as probably true, without having to omit parts that don't line up with my dogma (because I don't have any, as far as I'm aware). If any of them happen to be wrong, I don't care on a personal level. It's not going to affect how I treat people. I'll just be interested in finding out what the replacements/amendments to the theories are, as things progress. I have confidence (but not certainty) in scientific theory because I understand the scientific method. I know all theories are falsifiable, and that people whose job it is to falsify them, and who will get great prestige for doing so, are working really hard to find problems (both before and after a hypothesis is promoted to a theory).
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 8, 2018 at 11:15 am
(June 7, 2018 at 10:01 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Hawkings' calculations show infinite space curvature at the Big Bang. Thus, no space. How much matter and energy can fit in no space? Zero.
Continuing to repeat the strawman will not help you
The universe deriving from nothing is a straw man. How so?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 8, 2018 at 11:17 am
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The universe came from -we don;t know-.
That we includes you...but, is it even relevant? Your main thrust is to present some argument for a god to atheists. Do you think that anyone is an atheist because they think that the universe came from nothing, or because they don;t believe that the universe came from something?
What do you think atheism is or refers to.....? You;ve been here for a few hundred pages, this should be an easy one for you by now.
While you;re working out your response to that one, let me line up another one for you. Lets say we picked an easier example..since none of us can show that the universe came from nothing -or- from something..let;s pick an example that we know "comes from something"
The venerable 747. Damn near 50 years in service in the sky and pulling it;s weight in this thread too! We know that 747s come from something. In what way, however, would demonstrating that....demonstrate that they came from a guy named Steve who hates butt stuff?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 8, 2018 at 12:39 pm
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Quote:The universe deriving from nothing is a straw man. How so?
Seriously this shits been explained to you like what 3 times now
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