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The myth of atheist core believe.
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RE: The myth of atheist core believe.
(June 10, 2018 at 8:51 pm)Astreja Wrote:
(June 10, 2018 at 7:43 pm)Wololo Wrote: Don't forget basic spelling and grammar.

True dat.  The bad punctuation alone gives Me carte blanche to smite at will.  BRB...

(Goddess of Punctuation and Random Equipment Malfunctions toddles off to make a cup of tea and ponder a suitably horrible fate for the OP)

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#92
RE: The myth of atheist core believe.
Wow.... just.... wow.

The sorts of mentalities that the internet puts me in contact with is nothing short of astonishing!

First up, screw that small font!
(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: We all know there is size otherwise there would be no distance.

sniff.... smells like a first attempt at philosophy. What came first? Metaphysics or physics? The egg or the chicken?

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: This size is infinite large because there are no borders in nothing.

Huh? What is infinitely large?
Where are there no borders?! Have you seen Mexico?!

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: If the universe is made of finites then proof me a border and that there is nothing behind this border.

The limit to where we can probe, our border of information, is the big bang.
If there is anything beyond it, we cannot know.

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: The universe is infinite in size and there for cosmology must also obey this logic.

"there for"? or "therefore"?
If you want to be taken seriously, proper spelling helps.
As someone who has studied a bit of astrophysics, I can assure you that no one in the field will ever assert that the universe is infinite in size. No one follows that concept nowadays. Perhaps 300 years ago, they did. Maybe you'd like to catch up with the times, hmmm?

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: Logic comes first and feelings later. However mathematical cosmology like Einstein's theory isn't made of infinites but mathematical calculations thus numbers that are units and units are finites and not infinites. Mathematical cosmology cannot explain something that is infinite thus the universe. All mathematical cosmology is make believe. It’s a religion of its own. Pure pseudo science.

How about this: observations rule. Logic flows from observations and feelings are a byproduct of evolution in such a way as to provide quick mental shortcuts to problems, without really solving them properly, but just well enough.
Astrophysics and cosmology rely on observations first and foremost. Mathematics is then applied to model the observations and obtain predictions for the future and, in some cases, to dial back the click and extrapolate into the past.

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: Through mathematical cosmology pseudo scientists make bold claims without their cosmology being logically deducted from the universe its infinite.

Of course. Why would anyone start at a dogmatic position and work from there? Seems to me that you have failed at logic.

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: While logical deduction must begin with infinite or it's not based on the universe. Einstein thought something up that began with a proton and a neutron that have mass. It then made an electron rotate perfectly around it so there would be no friction to calculate. Then Einstein added photon's which do not have mass so they can pass through everything and thus Einstein didn't have to calculate friction again.

The things that Einstein did, huh?....
Rutherford and Millikan are turning in their graves at what you just said!

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: Then he was stuck with the gravity particle because it behaves physical yet that would mean it would interact with the proton and neutron physically and this would make it have friction which he didn't want to calculate. So he invented the magical black box and called it the fourth dimension. And he also stuck the timeline in there. Its pseudo science not based on the truth and you people need to realize that you cannot have the truth if you don't make cosmology based on the universe.

Wow.... I am truly amazed at how much you don't know about Einstein's deductions...
Maybe you could use some actual physicist to assist you in learning about this stuff. Not me, I won't babysit you beyond this post...

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: Which requires infinites. Cosmological scientists don't care for infinites because mathematics cannot do this.

Mathematics can do infinities.
Check this> sum(n, n=1, to infinity) = -1/12 (or is it?)

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: So they stick to their status quo and won't be honest.

Scientists are the people on this planet who try their best to be honest. Certainly, some fail at it, but overall the science that we have nowadays is a very honest way of discovering about Nature.

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: Atheist always act as if they are the pillar of honesty as if they know better than the religious yet their own core believe cosmology is fake too. Atheists assume they are honest because of cosmology that is made of pseudo science.


What?! What does cosmology have to do with atheists?
Perhaps you would like to get acquainted with Mr. Percy Shelley who, in 1811 (before your cosmology people), penned The Necessity of Atheism.

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: There is also a cosmology that is based on infinites and it makes zero assumptions. Like Occam's razor and the logic starts with nothing and then creates particles. As in nothing you have no borders or blockage and this creates infinites. As nothing is holding anything back in nothing.

Come now.... how can you ever logically go from a situation of total nothingness into something?

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: The universe is made of an infinite infinite large particles. When I write infinite large do not think of it as size but as essence.

Essence?... are you trying to delve into metaphysics again? At least, learn about Aquinas and Aristotle first.

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: And something that is infinite large has infinite details and this causes it to shape up like a perfect sphere as infinite details cannot create flatness on a surface.

Yep... you are trying to say some metaphysical truth...

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: And all particles press outwards upon each other as they want to be infinite large and they do so with infinite strength all equally keeping each their size intact. And because there is no flatness on their surfaces as in perfect spheres and that they press upon each other they all spin and maneuver there for. And as the particles maneuver friction is created between spinning particles and this allows for room to open up to let some particles expand a bit. Normally these particles are gravity but when they become larger it becomes warmth and this makes it so there is always a radio background noise in the universe. And the larger they become after warmth comes light then radiation then electrons and then the particles that will form atoms through what is called flow attraction.

That.... makes no sense whatsoever!

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: This takes zero assumptions and is pure logical deduction like Occam's razor.

Zero assumptions?!
Aren't you assuming the Infinite Universe?
I think the word "infinite" blows the proportions of this assumption out of any other that science is actually trying to deal with.

(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: Unless you want to think of the "nothing" as an assumption but it still is nothing.

You totally skipped the nothing part with some magic that turned it into infinity.
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#93
RE: The myth of atheist core believe.
(June 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: Einstein thought something up that began with a proton and a neutron that have mass. It then made an electron rotate perfectly around it so there would be no friction to calculate. Then Einstein added photon's which do not have mass so they can pass through everything and thus Einstein didn't have to calculate friction again. Then he was stuck with the gravity particle because it behaves physical yet that would mean it would interact with the proton and neutron physically and this would make it have friction which he didn't want to calculate. So he invented the magical black box and called it the fourth dimension. And he also stuck the timeline in there.

What the fuck are you going on about?

I don't remember reading anything vaguely related to this in Einstein's biography.

Are you referring to a thought experiment?
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#94
RE: The myth of atheist core believe.
The reference to Einstein may have been just for flavor. That text block didn't seem to be about making sense. Maybe it was the result of drug enhanced performance art?
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#95
RE: The myth of atheist core believe.
The OP was right about atheists not having multiple shared core beliefs, just the one.
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#96
RE: The myth of atheist core believe.
Not even one. A shared core lack of belief.

I doubt he'll be back. He has to either admit his article has nothing to do with atheism (I doubt he even read it before copying it), or start stupid word games trying to make out that it does.

It brings up the very common "false dichotomy": an insistence that only two possibilities can be the case, without evidence of such. Here he's bound to think, "either God did it or else [some nonsense about everything coming from nothing]". Of course, he's just ignored the vast number of other possible explanations, either dishonestly or because he isn't capable of imagining anything else.
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RE: The myth of atheist core believe.
(June 11, 2018 at 5:53 am)Wololo Wrote:
(June 10, 2018 at 8:51 pm)Astreja Wrote: True dat.  The bad punctuation alone gives Me carte blanche to smite at will.  BRB...

(Goddess of Punctuation and Random Equipment Malfunctions toddles off to make a cup of tea and ponder a suitably horrible fate for the OP)

I'll have a chat with Anoia, maybe a few ladles getting stuck in drawers will give him pause for thought.

Anoia is great!  Haven't spoken to Her in a while; I should ring her and set up a coffee date.
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#98
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He figured out all the secrets of the universe, except how paragraph s work, apparently.
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(June 9, 2018 at 2:49 pm)The Lion Roar Wrote: Actually I posted you a link to the full scoop. But you claim I dont. Try you're luck somewhere else.

Go advertise your bullshit elsewhere.
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Are we beating a dead whore?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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