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Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 2:00 am
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In response to what these miserable republicunt pricks are doing at the border.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-co...-into-this
Watch the video but this comment lays it out clearly.
Quote:The host expressed dismay that Americans are currently “putting up with our government saying, ‘If you come to the United States, the worst thing imaginable will happen to you. We will take your children away from you, with no guarantee you’ll see them again.’”
“That is using cruelty as a deterrent,” he said. “Clearly, no decent human being could defend that. So Jeff Sessions did.”
Of course, Sessions is only the go-fer boy of the miserable cunt in chief.
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 3:48 am
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Not to mention that the same (conservative) people currently justifying tearing children away from their parents spend the last twenty years insisting "every child deserves a mother and a father."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 5:10 am
'Do you understand how much of a Nazi you have to be to pull a frightened, crying child away from a mother, offering no reassurance or explanation of when the child will see that mother again? And then wake up, go to work, and do it AGAIN?
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 7:38 am
From my understanding, at least part of what is occurring, is that they illegal immigrants are being put into federal prison, awaiting prosecution. The children are separated as the parents enter the federal prison system (you don't put children in adult prisons). On the other hand, I have heard it presented as a deterrent to an ever increasing problem of illegal immigration.
But sometimes, I think you need to take step back from whatever reasons or justifications you have for what you are doing; and ask, "Is this right". Even if logically valid, it may not be morally valid. And I would agree that this is most definitely one of those times. Tearing apart a family, when it is unnecessary or especially as a deterrent is wrong. This policy should be rejected and discarded. I think that there is a big problem with illegal immigration. I can agree to having harsh (zero tolerance) policies to those who are guilty. But I can't see where this is morally justifiable. I've heard similar on the Breakpoint podcast recently, so hopefully, we can get this changed.
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 12:03 pm
RR, you overlook the basic premise that people who arrive at the border are not criminals, they are asylum seekers. They have not been convicted of anything and there are certainly no efforts being made to pre-screen them by the Border Patrol. It's essentially, "you speak Spanish - get in this cell." Yeah, we are a great xtian humanitarian nation.
Especially with that miserable fuck running things.
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 12:11 pm
(June 15, 2018 at 12:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: RR, you overlook the basic premise that people who arrive at the border are not criminals, they are asylum seekers. They have not been convicted of anything and there are certainly no efforts being made to pre-screen them by the Border Patrol. It's essentially, "you speak Spanish - get in this cell." Yeah, we are a great xtian humanitarian nation.
Especially with that miserable fuck running things.
I already disagreed with the policy. However, if they are going through the proper channels appealing for assylum, then I would also agree that they are not criminals.
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 12:14 pm
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What more can they do than walk up to the border and ask for asylum?
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 3:01 pm
(June 15, 2018 at 12:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What more can they do than walk up to the border and ask for asylum?
Duh...
Fill out an FU-254 form, complete with US passport size photos of all asylum seekers, as well as a full criminal history report from their local police precinct. Then get that all notarized and send it to USCIS with a check for $768 dollars. Wait 6-8 months for processing, then fill out an FU-371B form and within another 6-8 months you should receive your border crossing papers.
The above is all bullshit but it's based on my own experience with immigration
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 15, 2018 at 3:20 pm
Um, that sounds reasonable but people are rarely reasonable when some gang is beating the shit out of them.
https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/vis...m_2017.pdf
Quote:The steadily growing waiting period in this preference
is now over thirteen years for countries of
most favorable visa availability and even longer for some oversubscribed countries
I wouldn't like to get hit over the head for 13 years. Would you?
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RE: Stephen Colbert Rips Jeff Sessions a New Asshole
June 16, 2018 at 3:43 am
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