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BREAKING: SCOTUS Upholds Trump Travel Ban
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RE: BREAKING: SCOTUS Upholds Trump Travel Ban
June 27, 2018 at 12:07 am
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2018 at 12:08 am by Fake Messiah.)
(June 26, 2018 at 10:42 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Can we get a travel ban on Christian countries now then? I mean most of the murders in this country are committed by Christians. Well, gov does separate Christians from their kids and put them in concentration camps and also gives them drugs once they get to US so that's something.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
Everyone with more than a dozen brain cells knew that Trump's E.O.s on this issue were constitutional. The dummy judges that ruled differently should be disbarred for stupidity.
(June 26, 2018 at 10:56 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Why do people try to make this a Muslim thing? There are many Muslim countries not on the list. I heard recently that the largest populations of Muslims are in south East Asia. Because Trump said it was a Muslim thing, his original idea was to ban all Muslims from entering the US. So this was really the closest thing he could get passed, people are more worried about the precedent it may set for presidential power over immigration. Now that the president has this power what is to stop him from putting impossible travel requirements on Muslim countries, in order to fit them on the banned list. (June 27, 2018 at 2:24 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:(June 26, 2018 at 10:56 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Why do people try to make this a Muslim thing? There are many Muslim countries not on the list. I heard recently that the largest populations of Muslims are in south East Asia. Wasn't that a temporary thing until policies where in place? It also seems that it was clarified that it was Muslim terrorist countries.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther (June 27, 2018 at 6:03 am)toRoadRunner79 Wrote:(June 27, 2018 at 2:24 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Because Trump said it was a Muslim thing, his original idea was to ban all Muslims from entering the US. So this was really the closest thing he could get passed, people are more worried about the precedent it may set for presidential power over immigration. Now that the president has this power what is to stop him from putting impossible travel requirements on Muslim countries, in order to fit them on the banned list. Any person who still believes in the "war on terror" is simple minded beyond believe, and moreover ignorant beyond believe too. Muslims are nothing but the new straw-man. Trump and his likes will use Muslims -and Islamophobia- to change America into their own personal farm. Americans will lose the freedoms one by one. RE: BREAKING: SCOTUS Upholds Trump Travel Ban
June 27, 2018 at 11:45 am
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2018 at 11:49 am by Brian37.)
Native Americans had a much better case for a "travel ban" when Columbus showed up.
The right leaning SCOTUS gave President Shithole a "technical" win. "Oh, yea just add some non Muslim countries to the list, then we can pretend we are not vilifying Hispanics too". The assholes who are justifying this vile decision have never been a refugee. (June 27, 2018 at 6:03 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(June 27, 2018 at 2:24 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Because Trump said it was a Muslim thing, his original idea was to ban all Muslims from entering the US. So this was really the closest thing he could get passed, people are more worried about the precedent it may set for presidential power over immigration. Now that the president has this power what is to stop him from putting impossible travel requirements on Muslim countries, in order to fit them on the banned list. Well he did call for a complete ban of all Muslims trying to enter the US, now I wouldn't be surprised if his team tried to walk back those comments, but I dont think anyone really believes that this is move to fight terrorists, it just looks like the only jab he could take against Muslims.
Well, from what I gather from his rhetoric, according to Trump, Muslims and terrorists are the same thing, so it does have a kind of consistency.
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