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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 2:51 pm
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You were talking completely out of your ass..that's "so what". Own it, lol.
Heres what I wonder, are you legitimately confused and thats why you support what you do..or is it a case in which you support this or that even though you actually do know it's bullshit?
I'd like to think it's the former.....that would make me feel better about the country I love..and the people who live in it. Wish in one hand, shit in the other..though, right?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 2:53 pm
(August 9, 2018 at 2:51 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You were talking completely out of your ass..that's "so what". Own it, lol.
No, I supported my claims on tax rates. The links are there.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 2:54 pm
You haven't been doing well with links lately.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 2:57 pm
(August 9, 2018 at 1:31 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (August 9, 2018 at 1:00 pm)alpha male Wrote: Why didn't anyone complain about other countries' tariffs on US goods before Trump started his?
Seems like Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Because:
1. it is better to export low value added activity abroad than to keep it at home, and if foreign tariffs accelerate that so much the better?
2. Tariffs always distort allocation of domestic resources by shifting available investment and labor from efficient and competitive industrial sectors that should be kept and expanded to inefficient and uncompetitive industries that should be jettisoned. If a foreign nation is willing to abuse its own resource allocation, who are we to complain?
The economy overall is not always worse off if a sector is losing rather than winning. You can only win overall for yourself by not fighting battles with others that’s not worth winning. With trump we instead devote our resources to winning battles that we are better off losing or not fighting.
Clear?
Bu bu her e-mails.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 2:59 pm
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(August 9, 2018 at 2:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You haven't been doing well with links lately.
How so?
I seem to be doing better than jorm.
(August 9, 2018 at 2:28 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Meanwhile, real wages continue to stagnate....
Yep, as they have for 40 years for the bottom half of earners.
If we limit immigration and encourage people to consider certain trades instead of pursuing expensive but useless college degrees, maybe that would change.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 3:02 pm
Quote:Bivens, the EPI research director, estimated that “the effective [U.S.] rate will all but surely dip below 15 percent and get close to 10 percent.” He pointed to an analysis from Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania to back up his point. According to the Penn Wharton Budget Model, the average effective tax rate for corporations will be about 9 percent in 2018 but go up to 18 percent by 2027, thanks to some of the provisions that will expire over the next 10 years.
https://www.marketplace.org/2018/01/16/b...porate-tax
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 3:03 pm
(August 9, 2018 at 2:59 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 9, 2018 at 2:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You haven't been doing well with links lately.
How so?
I seem to be doing better than jorm.
Like I said...I enjoy imagining that you think so. I'd prefer to believe that you were simply confused..repeating those rallying lines you've heard...rather than being an informed but completely cynical partisan..like your betters.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 3:04 pm
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(August 9, 2018 at 2:51 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Heres what I wonder, are you legitimately confused and thats why you support what you do..or is it a case in which you support this or that even though you actually do know it's bullshit?
I don't know if tariffs will succeed or fail. If they fail and it significantly damages the country, Trump will be out and we'll get rid of them.
I understand and am OK with the pendulum nature of American politics. That seems to be a big difference between me and you guys.
(August 9, 2018 at 3:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Quote:Bivens, the EPI research director, estimated that “the effective [U.S.] rate will all but surely dip below 15 percent and get close to 10 percent.” He pointed to an analysis from Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania to back up his point. According to the Penn Wharton Budget Model, the average effective tax rate for corporations will be about 9 percent in 2018 but go up to 18 percent by 2027, thanks to some of the provisions that will expire over the next 10 years.
https://www.marketplace.org/2018/01/16/b...porate-tax
https://taxfoundation.org/cbo-report-com...e-tax-g20/
15% would put us with Canada and Germany. 10% would be down there with UK.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 3:09 pm
(August 9, 2018 at 3:04 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 9, 2018 at 2:51 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Heres what I wonder, are you legitimately confused and thats why you support what you do..or is it a case in which you support this or that even though you actually do know it's bullshit?
I don't know if tariffs will succeed or fail. If they fail and it significantly damages the country, Trump will be out and we'll get rid of them. So? That won't make the damage they've predictably done go poof.
Quote:I understand and am OK with the pendulum nature of American politics. That seems to be a big difference between me and you guys.
Whose talking politics? That pendulum can swing however it likes...tariffs are bipartisan..anyone can fuck up on that count. The right is fucking up.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 9, 2018 at 3:15 pm
(August 9, 2018 at 3:09 pm)Khemikal Wrote: So? That won't make the damage they've predictably done go poof.
I don't share your confidence in economic predictions. Consider all the predictions made regarding a Trump presidency. They were mostly off.
Quote:Whose talking politics?
Considering that Trumptards is in the title of the thread, I think everyone is talking politics to some extent.
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