Posts: 9915
Threads: 53
Joined: November 27, 2015
Reputation:
92
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:49 pm
(August 16, 2018 at 11:32 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:It’s called, “getting what you give.”
It's called "killing someone for no moral reason other then it feels right" . Sorry if i'm going to kill someone it's going to have to stand on firmer ground then that.
It’s called killing someone for the moral reason that they hurt people for sexual pleasure, and they should pay for the crimes they chose to commit.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Posts: 67144
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
(This post was last modified: August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That they should pay does not mean that we should kill them. No ones advocating that we just let them skate, right?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 9915
Threads: 53
Joined: November 27, 2015
Reputation:
92
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
(August 16, 2018 at 11:32 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Which may be emotionally satisfying, but not necessarily just. Which of the two is a capital case supposed to mete out? Visceral satisfaction, or justice?
How do you define justice?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
Quote:It’s called killing someone for the moral reason that they hurt people for sexual pleasure, and they should pay for the crimes they chose to commit.
Again this begs the question is this a moral reason to kill a prisoner ?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 9915
Threads: 53
Joined: November 27, 2015
Reputation:
92
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:51 pm
(This post was last modified: August 16, 2018 at 11:52 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm)IKhemikal Wrote: That they should pay does not mean that we should kill them. No ones advocating that we just let them skate, right?
The punishment doesn’t even fit the crime, Khem.
(August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:It’s called killing someone for the moral reason that they hurt people for sexual pleasure, and they should pay for the crimes they chose to commit.
Again this begs the question is this a moral reason to kill a prisoner ?
In my opinion yes, it is a moral reason to end a life. No question.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:52 pm
Quote:You're not doing the killing.
Yes i am i'm part of the society that sentences to death
Quote:Those hired by those we elect to represent us are.
And those are my representatives
Quote:And I thought we'd moved on from the immorality of cleansing the genepool of scum to disinfecting it by keeping the threats to the genepool locked up?
Wow just wow
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 67144
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:53 pm
(This post was last modified: August 16, 2018 at 11:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (August 16, 2018 at 11:32 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Which may be emotionally satisfying, but not necessarily just. Which of the two is a capital case supposed to mete out? Visceral satisfaction, or justice?
How do you define justice?
Can we not do this, honestly? I define justice as something identifiably separate from emotional satisfaction. That really ought to be enough to contextualize my question..shouldn't it? We're not really arguing that point...surely...?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:53 pm
(August 16, 2018 at 11:51 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm)IKhemikal Wrote: That they should pay does not mean that we should kill them. No ones advocating that we just let them skate, right?
The punishment doesn’t even fit the crime, Khem.
(August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Again this begs the question is this a moral reason to kill a prisoner ?
In my opinion yes, it is a moral reason to end a life. No question. And that's all that it is i'm afraid
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 35263
Threads: 204
Joined: August 13, 2012
Reputation:
146
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:54 pm
(August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That they should pay does not mean that we should kill them. No ones advocating that we just let them skate, right?
I think you'll find many comments about life in prison being "torture". If that's not advication of eventual release, I don't know what is.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
Posts: 67144
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 16, 2018 at 11:55 pm
Even if that were so....if a person serves 50 years...they didn't skate.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
|