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Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 17, 2018 at 12:24 am)Khemikal Wrote: You know what's really hilarious?  That Benny immediately set off to google the lady, thinking it had something to do with her, rather than Petersons widely known and completely indisputable axe to grind with what he thinks are a bunch of marxists leading us off to the gulags and worse....lol.

Equity is a murderous doctrine..in his opinion.  He doesn't make any bones about it.  He doesn't deny it.  It's his entire act.  

He felt like sharing that in response to a tweet about a womens march, and how we all support womens rights.  Somehow...that's going to get us all killed - just like it did in soviet russia!  (lol)

Is he a political scientist or historian?  No.

No, I set off to google her, because it's the only part of that sentence which can be googled.  I wanted to see why he would say such a thing.  I still don't know why, because I haven't had time to research her, or really even to learn what he means by murderous equity.

I suspect he's talking about a very deep hatred of identity politics, and specifically of communist identity politics that have lead to a loss of free speech and the deaths of hundreds of millions of people.

If so, I'm not sure how he can draw any parallel to this person or the Liberal government of Canada.  It seems like a major stretch indeed.

One thing I can infer is that he has a deep hatred for the Liberal party, including Justin Trudeau, who is an absolute darling of the left.  (Even I have a bit of a hard-on for Trudeau tbh, because he makes Canada look so fucking cool and awesome compared to Trump.)
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 17, 2018 at 12:18 am)bennyboy Wrote: Please bring some facts, and support your assertions.  I'll even give you a list of fact-based discussion we could base a serious intellectual discussion on:

1)  What exactly does the Canadian legislation for which Peterson became famous SAY?  Is he right or wrong to oppose it?  (We could link the statue and actually read it ourselves)
It doesn't say what he says it does.  Fact.  

Quote:2)  Why the fuck would he respond to a women's march in that way?  What do the words mean, and what, exactly, is his beef with the woman he called out?  (we could actually learn why they despise each other so much)
Because he's a fucking loon..Benny.  I keep telling you this...and it doesn't have anything in specific to do with -her-......stahp

Quote:3)  Why does he keep referring to women in his book as "chaos"?  And why are there so many articles and interviews with academic women who seem so solidly interested in, and in support of, his ideas, if he's such a woman-hating pig?  (we could see what those female academics SAY in their overt agreement with his stance, even his stance on women and men in society)
Because that's how it's conceptualized in many examples of religious literature.  Another of his fetishes.  

Quote:All of these might reveal him to be as you've portrayed him.  But until you do the actual groundwork, I have to believe that you're just making shit up, i.e. projecting your own anxieties and insecurities as a liberal white man onto a bunch of out-of-context one-liners.
You don't have to believe that..you want to..and you're wrong.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 17, 2018 at 12:36 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(August 17, 2018 at 12:18 am)bennyboy Wrote: Please bring some facts, and support your assertions.  I'll even give you a list of fact-based discussion we could base a serious intellectual discussion on:

1)  What exactly does the Canadian legislation for which Peterson became famous SAY?  Is he right or wrong to oppose it?  (We could link the statue and actually read it ourselves)
It doesn't say what he says it does.  Fact.  

Quote:2)  Why the fuck would he respond to a women's march in that way?  What do the words mean, and what, exactly, is his beef with the woman he called out?  (we could actually learn why they despise each other so much)
Because he's a fucking loon..Benny.  I keep telling you this...

Quote:3)  Why does he keep referring to women in his book as "chaos"?  And why are there so many articles and interviews with academic women who seem so solidly interested in, and in support of, his ideas, if he's such a woman-hating pig?  (we could see what those female academics SAY in their overt agreement with his stance, even his stance on women and men in society)
Because that's how it's conceptualized in many examples of religious literature.  Another of his fetishes.  

Quote:All of these might reveal him to be as you've portrayed him.  But until you do the actual groundwork, I have to believe that you're just making shit up, i.e. projecting your own anxieties and insecurities as a liberal white man onto a bunch of out-of-context one-liners.
You don't have to believe that..you want to..and you're wrong.
Benny seems stuck on this idea that members of a group supporting him does not mean hes's against that group.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 17, 2018 at 12:36 am)bennyboy Wrote: No, I set off to google her, because it's the only part of that sentence which can be googled.  I wanted to see why he would say such a thing.  I still don't know why, because I haven't had time to research her, or really even to learn what he means by murderous equity.
I've told you multiple times what he means..I've been laughing at him about it for almost the entirety of this thread..even.

Quote:If so, I'm not sure how he can draw any parallel to this person or the Liberal government of Canada.  It seems like a major stretch indeed.
Then he is exactly what I've been telling you he is.  Since I've been telling you that he's a loon who says crazy shit out of a fear of cryptomarxists doing things to him that no one is doing to him.

Quote:One thing I can infer is that he has a deep hatred for the Liberal party, 
yathink?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
Justin Trudeau i guy who openly says he's a feminist .Believes in reconciliation with natives .Who's government passed the law he became famous lying about . And who believes in adding more women to his cabinet .Why wouldn't Peterson hate him ?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
For the record...and I find it amusing that I'm correcting yet another peterson kinda guy on this..but I'm not actually a liberal.

All credit to jorg, I enjoy this one so much I don't feel the need to quibble..I'm a loopy techno-fascist.  Don't bother goggling it,  the definition won't fit it's use in context, lol. I understand why people think I am, though..since I happen to agree with the libs on social issues and the general idiocy and indecency of the gop.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 17, 2018 at 1:01 am)Khemikal Wrote: For the record...and I find it amusing that I'm correcting yet another peterson kinda guy on this..but I'm not actually a liberal.

All credit to jorg, I enjoy this one so much I don't feel the need to quibble..I'm a loopy techno-fascist.  Don't bother goggling it,  the definition won't fit it's use in context, lol.  I understand why people think I am, though..since I happen to agree with the libs on social issues.
And i'm apparently a gerbil hating Nazi Tongue
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
What do you have against gerbils!  You afraid they're gonna replace ya?  Wink
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 17, 2018 at 1:13 am)Khemikal Wrote: What do you have against gerbils!  You afraid they're gonna replace ya?  Wink
They are cute and fuzzy and i'm jealous  Tongue

Then there is the issue of Nazi Gerbils 

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Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 17, 2018 at 12:45 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Justin Trudeau i guy who openly says he's a feminist .Believes in reconciliation with natives .Who's government passed the law he became famous lying about . And who believes in adding more women to his cabinet .Why wouldn't Peterson hate him ?

No doubt.  With this, I can't disagree.

(August 17, 2018 at 1:40 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(August 17, 2018 at 1:13 am)Khemikal Wrote: What do you have against gerbils!  You afraid they're gonna replace ya?  Wink
They are cute and fuzzy and i'm jealous  Tongue

Then there is the issue of Nazi Gerbils 

[Image: getimage.aspx?regionKey=yBHmqtAYDN4yV7Sp...&scale=100]

Jaaaaaa, das ist cute!

(August 17, 2018 at 1:03 am)Tizheruk Wrote: And i'm apparently a gerbil hating Nazi Tongue

It's true, because I said so!

(August 17, 2018 at 12:36 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(August 17, 2018 at 12:18 am)bennyboy Wrote: Please bring some facts, and support your assertions.  I'll even give you a list of fact-based discussion we could base a serious intellectual discussion on:

1)  What exactly does the Canadian legislation for which Peterson became famous SAY?  Is he right or wrong to oppose it?  (We could link the statue and actually read it ourselves)
It doesn't say what he says it does.  Fact.  

Let's read it, then, and see if what you are saying IS a fact.

(August 17, 2018 at 12:36 am)Khemikal Wrote:
Quote:All of these might reveal him to be as you've portrayed him.  But until you do the actual groundwork, I have to believe that you're just making shit up, i.e. projecting your own anxieties and insecurities as a liberal white man onto a bunch of out-of-context one-liners.
You don't have to believe that..you want to..and you're wrong.

Nope, it's because the internet is a pile of unsubstantiated bullshit, and I always assume that unless someone can provide support for their position. So far, you have a lot of metacommentary, one dubious link from Twitter (though it is kind of a problem for me), and nothing else.

If you could provide another half-dozen links, or a couple really solid passages, or a single really compelling video clip, then we'd be done here.
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