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Drug Executive: It's a moral requirement to charge patients the highest price
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RE: Drug Executive: It's a moral requirement to charge patients the highest price
(September 15, 2018 at 11:09 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: And how exactly would that help?

"The vaccine is calculated to be worth $7 billion had it been patented." ~ Wikipedia

Do you know how much R&D seven billion dollars can fund?  How many new and improved medications could be developed?

So instead we should practically murder people so pharmaceutical companies MIGHT make new and improved medication that people can't afford. Gotcha.

Maybe one day you'll have a life-threatening illness and be unable to pay for your medicine because some CEO decided to raise the cost of your medicine by 2000%.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Drug Executive: It's a moral requirement to charge patients the highest price
(September 15, 2018 at 10:35 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I don't know that it's a moral imperative, but it is a business imperative to maximize profits for the benefit of stockholders and that is a moral and legal imperative.  I understand we don't want profit to drive the decisions of pharmaceutical companies, but there don't immediately appear particularly good alternatives that I know of.  Consumers can put some pressure on manufacturers, but since they have a captive market, that's ineffective.  It could be mandated by law and regulated, but that might chill the motivation for spending the money to research and develop new drugs, and that's a lot.  There doesn't seem to be an obvious solution, or, at the least, I haven't heard of one.

The alternative is to mandate that pharmaceutical firms make make certain specified R&D investments and make certain product available at certain price levels as a condition for the pharmaceutical firm to operate and be able to enrich its shareholders.

Greed is a powerful driver than can be channeled to provide for greater public good.  But Operative work is “channeled”.

(September 15, 2018 at 11:57 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(September 15, 2018 at 11:42 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: How much is the financial damage to society resulting from reduction in the numbers of people vaccinated?

To optimize the value of the medical establishment, the advantage of greater investment in medical R&D must be balanced against:

1. the aggregate effect of reduction in accessibility of the fruits of past R&D.

2. the creation of harmful perverse incentives for selectively focusing on those R&D that promises to maximize the revenue to the pharmaceutical industry rather than to minimize the aggregate cost to society of ill health.

Okay.  And how do we get there?  I don't think asking pharmaceutical companies to just give away their labors like Salk did is any kind of answer.  As noted in my last post, lack of profit can equally as well dry up access.

False dichotomy.  The alternatives not only “untrammeled maximization of profits” and “lack of profits”. See above.
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RE: Drug Executive: It's a moral requirement to charge patients the highest price
Fuck the stockholders.

Most of them did not "invest" in the company to begin with.  They simply bought pieces of paper from other speculating scumbags.
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RE: Drug Executive: It's a moral requirement to charge patients the highest price
(September 15, 2018 at 12:00 pm)Divinity Wrote:
(September 15, 2018 at 11:09 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: And how exactly would that help?

"The vaccine is calculated to be worth $7 billion had it been patented." ~ Wikipedia

Do you know how much R&D seven billion dollars can fund?  How many new and improved medications could be developed?

So instead we should practically murder people so pharmaceutical companies MIGHT make new and improved medication that people can't afford. Gotcha.

Maybe one day you'll have a life-threatening illness and be unable to pay for your medicine because some CEO decided to raise the cost of your medicine by 2000%.

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