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My opinion - origin of the universe?
#51
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
(September 27, 2011 at 11:11 am)Rhythm Wrote: Oh IDK, the evolution of opposable thumbs, to me, is much easier to understand than "goddidit" since the latter has absolutely no explanatory power.

By harder I mean you actually use your brain Rhythm Tongue

@stucky: fix your quotes, I can't see that last post, probably by bad quote tag usage.
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#52
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
(September 27, 2011 at 11:05 am)Napoleon Wrote:
(September 27, 2011 at 10:51 am)Stucky Wrote: Another non-responsive reply. The same as "CREATION. LOOK IT UP. LEARN. COME BACK.

I refuse to call you dumb for your reply.

Non-responsive? You clearly do not understand evolution because you've already stated you think it is where we come from sludge out the ground or some shit like that.

Why so mad bro? Confusedhock:

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#53
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
Do tell us, what's so admirable about the opposable thumb that makes you think it couldn't occur naturally by evolution?
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#54
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
(September 27, 2011 at 11:14 am)LastPoet Wrote:
(September 27, 2011 at 11:11 am)Rhythm Wrote: Oh IDK, the evolution of opposable thumbs, to me, is much easier to understand than "goddidit" since the latter has absolutely no explanatory power.

By harder I mean you actually use your brain Rhythm Tongue

@stucky: fix your quotes, I can't see that last post, probably by bad quote tag usage.

Give me a break LastPoet, I told you I'm old. I make mistakes with the computer. When I started out we communicated with crank phones. I corrected my mistake with another post.

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#55
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
(September 27, 2011 at 11:11 am)Stucky Wrote: I'm sorry Rhythm, I thought you were smart enough to understand. "One of the characteristics most often identified as being typically primate and having played a role in human evolution is the opposable thumb. It is argued that the eye-hand coordination made possible by both stereoscopic vision and a grasping hand permitted primates to exploit arboreal habitats in a more efficient fashion. That same hand is used by humans today to manipulate tools and, in turn, the environment with a great deal of dexterity.
Beth-Ann Shepley
1991 Woodrow Wilson Biology Institute
Now, Ms. Shepley is an evolutionist but she makes a good point. Naturally, I disagree that we obtained our opposable thumb by "evolution" because I am not an evolutionist. I leave it to you to decide nforb yourself on that point. To me, I just cant understand how we could be so complex by evolving from "pond sludge".

I truly am interested in your opinions.

Whether or not you can understand it has no bearing on whether or not it is an accurate description of the origins of opposable thumbs (or of the diversity and complexity of life). This is called an argument from incredulity, or ignorance.



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#56
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
(September 27, 2011 at 11:17 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(September 27, 2011 at 11:11 am)Stucky Wrote: I'm sorry Rhythm, I thought you were smart enough to understand. "One of the characteristics most often identified as being typically primate and having played a role in human evolution is the opposable thumb. It is argued that the eye-hand coordination made possible by both stereoscopic vision and a grasping hand permitted primates to exploit arboreal habitats in a more efficient fashion. That same hand is used by humans today to manipulate tools and, in turn, the environment with a great deal of dexterity.
Beth-Ann Shepley
1991 Woodrow Wilson Biology Institute
Now, Ms. Shepley is an evolutionist but she makes a good point. Naturally, I disagree that we obtained our opposable thumb by "evolution" because I am not an evolutionist. I leave it to you to decide nforb yourself on that point. To me, I just cant understand how we could be so complex by evolving from "pond sludge".

I truly am interested in your opinions.

Whether or not you can understand it has no bearing on whether or not it is an accurate description of the origins of opposable thumbs (or of the diversity and complexity of life). This is called an argument from incredulity, or ignorance.

So, your answer is if I dont agree with you I am ignorant?

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#57
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
No, my answer is that if your argument against evolution consists of "I cannot understand", that, is an argument from incredulity, or ignorance. Evolution by natural selection could of course be incorrect, but that would not make ID correct. Perhaps instead of trying (and failing) to criticize our current theories regarding the diversity and complexity of life, you could offer evidence to support your own?
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#58
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
No, because you've shown a normal ignorance of evolution and you bare the tradmark of it, the Argument from ignorance
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#59
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
I suppose I should have given those links, he seems to have interpreted my comment as a personal insult.
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#60
RE: My opinion - origin of the universe?
(September 27, 2011 at 11:24 am)LastPoet Wrote: No, because you've shown a normal ignorance of evolution and you bare the tradmark of it, the Argument from ignorance

Your posting of a link to something written by an evolutionist doesn't make my argument false LastPoet, nor does it make me ignorant for not reading it, anymore than you not reading the Bible or a creationist link makes you ignorant. I gave my opinion of the origin of the universe and said why I believe that and you keep calling me ignorant. I respect your right to your belief, why cant you accept mine? The same goes for you Rhythm. You just seem to get angry that I wont accept your margument, even though you wont accept mine and I dont care. I'm just discussing, not preaching, you two are begining to preach.

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