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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:18 pm
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(November 16, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Evolution is not observable or demonstratable. They have some fairly good reasons for thinking so and that is all. I do not believe in demons, but I do understand why it helps Christians to be able to shift the blame ( the devil made me do it-- YEAH SURE..lol)
It's silly to say so when you've been provided facts to the contrary, don't you think? You could only insist that despite of the fact that evolution both is and has been observed, and can be and has been demonstrated, you refuse to accept it nevertheless. Just as you refused to accept, for example.. a universe of cold and cruel suffering....despite insisting that this planet was made specifically to inflict cold cruel suffering upon us, in order to refine our souls.
I've long wondered why this is the case for a certain subset of the religious. Why the reality of their god is bound up in a denial of some factual state of affairs. Perhaps you could explain that for me? Or, perhaps, you could explain for me why the religious often refuse to accept the very things that they themselves assert to be the case?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:28 pm
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(November 16, 2018 at 4:05 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 16, 2018 at 3:40 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Nope.
No one finding could do that, and (again) the fact you even say that, demonstrates you actually know nothing about the MOUNTAINS of intersecting, supporting evidence that supports and IS WORKING NOW in the field to find cures for diseases.
There is NOT ONE geneticist that would agree with your rubbish.
BTW, sweetie, when you *do* your unsupported ASSertion thing, like you do, you need to provide a possible concrete example of how that would work, IN DETAIL.
Good luck with that, you incompetent liar.
Blowing smoke out your ass is not good enough.
Explain how one species turning into an entirely different species is helping find cures for diseases? Genetics is a relatively new field, and they are discovering new things all the time. They were using genetics long before 2013 and yet they discovered an entirely new code with a second language that controls our genes, written on top of the other code. https://www.washington.edu/news/2013/12/...etic-code/
Thanks sweetie ... for yet again demonstrating you actually know nothing about the field and how it works.
Did the discovery of how genes are expressed, (and epigenetics) upend the field of genetics ? Nope. You have FAILED to provide any evidence for your ASSertion that one discovery could change the entire field. Christ you are an ignorant fool.
BTW, genetics is not a new field. I know they didn't tell you that in your Creationist comic books, but it's a fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_genetics
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:30 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:17 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 16, 2018 at 4:13 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: That creationists are morons?
The point was made by a famous atheist. And it is a great one...
The point that 93% of people, including you as you volunteered, are morons might be accurate, but I doubt most would considered it great since we can’t completely isolate them.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:31 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 16, 2018 at 2:38 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Like evolution.
And you shouldn't use words like "demonstrable" as it contains the word "demon" and that's a good way to get the attention of one.
So an individual online told me once. I laughed at him, too. Everena: Evolution is not observable or demonstratable. They have some fairly good reasons for thinking so and that is all. I do not believe in demons, but I do understand why it helps Christians to be able to shift the blame ( the devil made me do it-- YEAH SURE..lol)
Actually it is both and has been observed in both the lab and the wild. The failing to do the required research and find that out us yours and yours alone.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 3:58 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: It's like watching a dog with a stick in its mouth trying to get through a doorway.
Yes, but the dog will stop and reconsider after far fewer attempts.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:34 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 6:46 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (November 15, 2018 at 8:39 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Everything here was designed and constructed by the Creator. And thus your argument falls apart.
How do you discern that DNA was obviously designed if everything is designed?
You simply have no basis to make that determination.
Because DNA is the proof. There is actual information found in DNA, not Shannon information.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:34 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:28 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (November 16, 2018 at 4:05 pm)Everena Wrote: Explain how one species turning into an entirely different species is helping find cures for diseases? Genetics is a relatively new field, and they are discovering new things all the time. They were using genetics long before 2013 and yet they discovered an entirely new code with a second language that controls our genes, written on top of the other code. https://www.washington.edu/news/2013/12/...etic-code/
Thanks sweetie ... for yet again demonstrating you actually know nothing about the field and how it works.
Did the discovery of how genes are expressed, (and epigenetics) upend the field of genetics ? Nope. You have FAILED to provide any evidence for your ASSertion that one discovery could change the entire field. Christ you are an ignorant fool.
BTW, genetics is not a new field. I know they didn't tell you that in your Creationist comic books, but it's a fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_genetics Indeed Genetics is an ancient field
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:35 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Because DNA is the proof. There is actual information found in DNA, not Shannon information.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:35 pm
Quote:Because DNA is the proof. There is actual information found in DNA, not Shannon information.
Keep spewing the talking point it makes no difference .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 16, 2018 at 4:36 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (November 16, 2018 at 3:58 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: It's like watching a dog with a stick in its mouth trying to get through a doorway.
Yes, but the dog will stop and reconsider after far fewer attempts.
I'm actually reminded of yhe behavioural experiment Lisa Simpson carried out on a hamster and Bart. The hamster learned the food was electrified after a couple of attempts.
Bart, not so much.
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