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IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
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 (September 26, 2011 at 6:28 pm)Loading Please Wait Wrote:(September 26, 2011 at 6:14 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Noah's ark is blatent bullcrap. The laws of physics go against so many 'miracles' in the bible. I'm more inclined to believe in einstein than what some desert goat herder in the middle east allegedly did by the account of some random old text which has been altered countless times by several different people. RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 27, 2011 at 5:43 pm
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2011 at 5:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Frodo slipped one by me. Glad I read back a page. If there were an explanation for any given event then it would cease to be supernatural, sure (unless the explanation was "this clearly happened, and is impossible" which if there were evidence, could also be the case). That wouldn't mean that it could no longer be god. You're the one shackling your deity to some contrived definition of itself.
You can't even seem to grasp the concept that a diety that interacts with the material world would be a measurable one, you would like for this to have happened, but left no evidence. A diety that is supernatural, but can affect the natural. Show the effect. Again, you're arguing for Loki, not Yahweh. Pick a point in your fable that god interacts with the material world, and support the claim. Stop pretending you have something insightful to say about the nature of evidence, or of some imagined barrier between imagined worlds. You don't. Also, did you seriously just make an appeal to Fred? I'd accept the word of god before I accepted the word of Fred. That's how much weight his opinion has to me.
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No Rhythm... what I'm saying that the result of any supernatural event has to be natural. Once commited (the supernatural act) it has to exist purely naturally, and it's reason for being sustained natural.
Fred made an intelligent point. I would assume rationality would overrule predjudice?  (September 26, 2011 at 4:40 pm)ReB Wrote: We are the ones who are doubting, so that means YOU have something to prove to US! Therefore, with your lack of proof, puts us Atheists on the winning side. Atheism = belief that there is no God Agnosticism = belief that you can neither prove nor disprove God's existence. Your post implies you don't know the difference. Which one are you? (September 26, 2011 at 4:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Atheists have plenty of evidence that god does not exist as described. Please share this evidence with me, I will help you understand that you are incorrect. (September 26, 2011 at 6:14 pm)Napoleon Wrote: There is a lot science can prove which actively goes against the hideous lies of religion. How old the world is for a start. Noah's ark is blatent bullcrap. The laws of physics go against so many 'miracles' in the bible. Even if you prove the events in the Bible are untrue (which you can't) it does not disprove the existence of God(s). It amuses me that your only argument against the existence of God(s) are directed at the Bible and Christianity. 
Arrogant ignorant theist ...please either keep your religion to yourself or push off.
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September 28, 2011 at 8:31 am
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 8:32 am by Epimethean.)
Jly, you clearly do not understand atheism and agnosticism. Start there and get back to us.
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 (September 28, 2011 at 8:18 am)Jesuslovesyou Wrote:(September 28, 2011 at 7:16 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Arrogant ignorant theist ...please either keep your religion to yourself or push off. My atheism is courtesy of people like yourself... quite insufferable egotistical imbeciles who know nothing ...not even their own religion and it's origins Please fuck off 
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
 (September 28, 2011 at 7:14 am)Jesuslovesyou Wrote: Atheism = belief that there is no God Wrong. I as an atheist have never claimed that a god or gods don't exist. I have simply rejected the claim theists have put forth. You say there is a god and I'm saying I don't believe you. I reckon you're another theist trying to redefine atheism. Save your energy, it won't work. An atheist is one who is without belief in a god or gods. One who does not believe. There are agnostic atheists (like myself) then there are gnostic atheists who assert that there is no god.
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity. Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist. You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them. |
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