DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[The Grand Nudger]

That's not what the term "first cause" means.  You're wrong about the meat fairy being the explanation for this planet, or for life..but even if we assumed for the lulz that you were right it still wouldn't be a first cause.  It would be a proximate cause.  Just like farmers are the proximate cause for all of your food..and evolutionary biology is the proximate cause for all of this life.

Either that's a problem, or it isn't.  If it isn't a problem for the meat fairy, it's not a problem for farmers or evolutionary biology.  Your objections are inconsistent with your own beliefs....in addition to your beliefs being laughably false.  

I'm not..but neither is the meat fairy.  Either that's a problem or it's not.

Your entire schtick has been a running argument from ignorance.  "Blah bnlah blah, you can't explain that!"  Well..yeah, ofc I can, and have.  What you really mean to say is "Blah blah blah, but that's not a first cause!"  well..so what, neither is the meat fairy you've described.  The difference..is that I can at least manage to demonstrate a proximate cause...whereas you can only flail around about things you don't understand..using words you don't understand, that reduce your beliefs to hilarious contradiction...for reasons you don't understand.

Real solid work, you betcha!  

Great! Stay an atheist. Keep on thinking you are smarter than 93% of the world. Keep denying the logic that makes it clear and obvious to the rest of us. Pretend we are all crazy. Pretend this all magically appeared from an inanimate object and keep being a   unitl you die and go nowhere.

More ad pops and straw...how utterly surprising! Gimme a second while I catch my breath after this completely unforseable turn of events.

Did you understand anything you quoted and responded to?

[Everena]

Do you think that it's possible that your interaction in this thread is an example of that?

You don't know either of those things, lol.  If you know it, you can show it.  If you can't..you just believe it.

All I am doing is sharing with you the logic we believers use to realize that God does in fact exist. 

I do have my own beliefs/theories about everything that you have all asked me about. That is a separate thing entirely. And no, I do not know for sure if my beliefs are true. 

As a third and separate point also, I do know that God exists beyond any and all doubt. I have had enough experiences to prove it to me, and some day you will have your own experiences that will prove it to you.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're sharing your beliefs with us (and more..so...sooo much more)..but you haven't decided to include any logic as of yet.

So..uh, about that last thing, you get that from your crystal ball?

[Bucky Ball]

Great! Stay an atheist. Keep on thinking you are smarter than 93% of the world. Keep denying the logic that makes it clear and obvious to the rest of us. Pretend we are all crazy. Pretend this all magically appeared from an inanimate object and keep being a Jerkoff until you die and go nowhere.

That's OK dear. We'll be OK. Our true-selves (according to YOU) will still be with your god, now won't they.
We'll stay atheists and remain just as smart as Roger Penrose, (an atheist) whom YOU quoted as (apparently "smart enough") useful (conveniently) in supporting your woo-woo.

And she talks about logic. LOL

[Angrboda]

I didn't ask you for what beliefs you have that lack justification, but rather what belief you have in the matter regardless of what your justification is.  Are you really this fucking stupid?  It seems so.

Regardless, I'd like an answer to the question, your Honor.  Do you believe that your special ball of shrieking energy you call God exists within the same time-space continuum as this universe here?

If you keep deflecting, I'm going to have to assume you are nothing but a troll.  Whether you're simply too stupid and chicken shit, or whether you are intentionally acting stupid to generate replies, it's all the same to me and I will start responding accordingly.  Not that I will ignore you.  Dumbass trolls are capable of offering up lulz to be had as well.

I already told you that I do not know and no one knows. Also, I do care and do not think it matters at all. For all we know, science could be wrong about space time.

You don't know what you believe? Actually, I don't find that hard to believe at all. As noted, if you don't know and have no justification for believing one way or the other, your objections to Krauss, including the one you keep reposting, fail to show that they are necessarily wrong, according to your beliefs and knowledge on the matter.

[Bucky Ball]

All I am doing is sharing with you the logic we believers use to realize that God does in fact exist.

Always the threat from these people. Accept my woo, or pay the price. LOL
Actually that's a total misrepresentation of billions of believers.
Christians do not find FAITH as the result of "logic".
1. She never said which logic system she uses, and why she chose that one.  
2. The notion that ultimate reality is "logical" ("intuitive") has been debunked ... Relativity, Uncertainty, Quantum Mechanics
3. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—"  ... NOT "logic". (Ephesians 2:3 .. I think).

She doesn't speak for believers. She's a little woo-meister who speaks ONLY for herself ... a cult of one.
There is NOT ONE of the world religions that buys the woo she's peddling here ... yet she (dishonestly) aligns herself with them. They would REJECT her as one of them.
Her dishonest attempt at inclusion in the 93 % is false, (as well as a fallacy ... perpetrated by one claiming "logic" LMAO

[Everena]

You're sharing your beliefs with us (and more..so...sooo much more)..but you haven't decided to include any logic as of yet.

So..uh, about that last thing, you get that from your crystal ball?

Yes atheists do seem to have their own strange brand of logic and made up definitions of what logic really is. 

Our defense of God is solid and is the only logical conclusion anyone would ever make. You either do not see it that way, or you pretend not to see it that way to fit your own twisted worldview and that is fine. Live and let live. You are just as entitiled to your own beliefs as I am.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're sharing your beliefs with us (and more..so...sooo much more)..but you haven't decided to include any logic as of yet.

So..uh, about that last thing, you get that from your crystal ball?

Yes atheists do seem to have their own strange brand of logic and made up definitions of what logic really is. 

Oh yeah, that's what we do.  We do it sooo hard, pretty much all of the time.  

Our defense of God is solid and is the only logical conclusion anyone would ever make. You either do not see it that way, or you pretend not to see it that way to fit your own twisted worldview and that is fine. Live and let live. You are just as entitiled to your own beliefs as I am.

What defense would that be, and who's this "our" you include yourself in?  A significant portion of the world would burn you for a witch, lol.

In any case, no ones telling you that you aren't entitled to your own beliefs. You're being consistently reminded that you are not entitled to your own facts. Obvs...thats a twisted atheist logic rule that I just made up, so, feel free to disregard.

[Everena]

All I am doing is sharing with you the logic we believers use to realize that God does in fact exist.

Actually that's a total misrepresentation of billions of believers.
Christians do not find FAITH as the result of "logic".
1. She never said which logic system she uses, and why she chose that one.  
2. The notion that ultimate reality is "logical" ("intuitive") has been debunked ... Relativity, Uncertainty, Quantum Mechanics
3. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—"  ... NOT "logic".

She doesn't speak for believers. She's a little woo-meister who speaks ONLY for herself ... a cult of one.

You wish that were true. Oh how you wish that were true. 93% of the world is united in our God belief and we all share very similiar beliefs as I have already pointed out and proven numerous times. You pretending something different will not ever make the reality of it any different. We know our beliefs are based on clear and very obvious logic.

[The Grand Nudger]

-and it's not as if a bunch of people could be -wrong- about something....I mean, unless they're scientists, ofc.