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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:35 pm
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Quote:Just answer the question.
Take your disingenuous ploys and stuff em
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:37 pm
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(November 29, 2018 at 3:35 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:Just answer the question.
Take your disingenuous ploys and stuff em
It is not a ploy. Something must have convinced you all that this entire universe could come to be without an intelligent force. What convinces you that is even possible? I would truly like to know.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:39 pm
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Quote:It is not a ploy.
Yes it is
Quote:Something must have convinced you all that this entire universe could come to be without and intelligent force.
A thing you don't care to know and is just a foil for spewing more apologetics
Quote:What convinces you that is even possible. I would truly like to know.
Sorry don't buy it
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:39 pm
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_system
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=spo...i=scholart
You can tell when an article has substance, or is fluff, by how often it is cited, and whether the articles citing it are trying to argue a “philosophical” point, or are substantively propose testable hypothesis or announce verifiable results.
You can be damned sure citation of articles supporting creationism don’t occur much in substantive work proposing testable hypothesis or announcing verifiable results.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:41 pm
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:44 pm
(November 29, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:It is not a ploy.
Yes it is
Quote:Something must have convinced you all that this entire universe could come to be without an intelligent force.
A thing you don't care to know and is just a foil for spewing more apologetics
You are so wrong. I do care to know what convinces people of atheism.
Quote:What convinces you that is even possible. I would truly like to know.
Sorry don't buy it
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:45 pm
Quote:You are so wrong. I do care to know what convinces people of atheism.
And i don't believe you
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:47 pm
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(November 29, 2018 at 3:41 pm)Amarok Wrote: (November 29, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_system Don't feed the apologists
In philosophy, systems theory, science, and art, emergence is the condition of an entity having properties its parts do not have, due to interactions among the parts.
Ok, so my first question about emergence would be, how are these interactions among the parts happening?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:47 pm
(November 29, 2018 at 3:37 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 29, 2018 at 3:35 pm)Amarok Wrote: Take your disingenuous ploys and stuff em
It is not a ploy. Something must have convinced you all that this entire universe could come to be without an intelligent force. What convinces you that is even possible? I would truly like to know.
You should already know. You linked just such a thing.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 29, 2018 at 3:48 pm
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(November 29, 2018 at 3:47 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 29, 2018 at 3:41 pm)Amarok Wrote: Don't feed the apologists
In philosophy, systems theory, science, and art, emergence is the condition of an entity having properties its parts do not have, due to interactions among the parts.
Ok, so my first question about emergence would be, how are these interactions among parts happening?
As expected, Back to the same bullshit.
Cutting to the chase, Evie’s “logic” is it doesn’t matter that complex system can spontaneously form without intelligence, because the only reason why it can appear to do that is because some some grand intelligence made reality that way.
How did the grand intelligence form then? By what process would it come to care whether you die or suffer? By what mechanism does it create or order reality?
But for Evie’s the grand intelligence of her happy fiction is exempt from the rule she applies to,everything else. It just is, and just happen to be the way she wants it no less.
Your simpleton “logic” is absolutely not a thing more than “I can argue by assertion but you can’t”.
Thanks for playing. Good bye.
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