DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[T0 Th3 M4X]

So you believe in an imaginary substance that nobody has ever seen and is floating around somewhere in space making up somewhere between 85 and 95 percent of the universe?  Sorry, but you and the other darkmatteratarians will need to show me this mysterious substance you claim or I'll have to disregard it as a fairy tale.  Not someone "said so", but actually show it.

It is no more imaginary than the 2 that is the X in 2+X=4.


The rotational curve of galaxies shows it.  


The fact that galaxy clusters exist shows it.


If you can’t understand why that is so, then you need to shove your Bible in the garbage and spend a few years studying something actually worth learning.

So go away, shove your Bible in the garbage (or better yet, up your ass), and the spend a few year studying something worth learning.

So what are you trying to say.  Something else that isn't it is proof of it?  In other words, you say you have reason to believe, but you still have none.  Got it.

Let me know when you've definitively found some, and not just because someone told you they did and it must be it.  When you show me the actual matter, I'll have no choice but to concede that it exists.

[Anomalocaris]

It is no more imaginary than the 2 that is the X in 2+X=4.


The rotational curve of galaxies shows it.  


The fact that galaxy clusters exist shows it.


If you can’t understand why that is so, then you need to shove your Bible in the garbage and spend a few years studying something actually worth learning.

So go away, shove your Bible in the garbage (or better yet, up your ass), and the spend a few year studying something worth learning.

So what are you trying to say.  Something else that isn't it is proof of it?  In other words, you say you have reason to believe, but you still have none.  Got it.

Let me know when you've definitively found some, and not just because someone told you they did and it must be it.  When you show me the actual matter, I'll have no choice but to concede that it exists.

I don’t give a rat’s ass what choice you think you have. You can think there is no oxygen because you can see it, and you can think there is a god because someone said god said there is a god.  

Now go away, shove the Bible up your ass, and then take it out and lick it for some more words from god.

[pocaracas]

Come on, M4X, don't get distracted!

Keep up the good talk:

If we need to get this technical, then I would suggest first defining "intelligence" so we can determine if we can measure it and how, and which point I would be happy to continue.

Intelligence is usually defined as the ability to solve problems... let me see in the dictionary...

I hope this is a satisfactory source:
https://philosophynow.org/issues/98/Info...telligence
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Unlike belief and knowledge, intelligence is not information: it is a process, or an innate capacity to use information in order to respond to ever-changing requirements. It is a capacity to acquire, adapt, modify, extend and use information in order to solve problems. Therefore, intelligence is the ability to cope with unpredictable circumstances. But intelligence is not merely analytical: to survive and flourish in society, we must also have social and emotional intelligence.
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But then there is also this one:
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.100...0-0870-9_3
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There is no agreed-upon definition of the concept of intelligence neither in psychology nor in philosophy. Experts’ definitions differ widely.
[...]
the power of good responses from the point of view of truth or facts (Thorndike) — the ability to carry on abstract thinking (Terman) — having learned or ability to learn to adjust oneself to the environment (Colvin) — the capacity for knowledge (Henmon); the capacity to acquire capacity (Woodrow)
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If you disagree with these guys, feel free to provide your own and let's go from there.

About dark matter... well... gravitational effects have been observed where no matter can be observed to produce them. So, if we can't see it, it's because it's dark.
Go outside, pick up some dirt, let the sun set in a moonless night and look at the dirt on your hand. That's dark matter. It produces no light for it to be observed.

In the case of cosmic dark matter, the thing is a bit more complicated, because it seems to emit no radiation at all, while your dirt will emit some IR from temperature, and some other spectroscopic emission lines from natural radioactive isotopes. Dark matter emits nothing of the sort, but is well masked within the background microwave emission.

[CDF47]

This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

Not sure how stating facts about DNA is proselytizing or how answering religious questions is proselytizing?

Nothing you've ever stated could ever be misconstrued as facts.  Bless.

RAmen

All I speak are facts and atheists try to dispute them.

[pocaracas]

Which one of you didn't accept general relativity?...

Anyway, some of you like youtube videos to explain things, so here's one cool video:

[T0 Th3 M4X]

So what are you trying to say.  Something else that isn't it is proof of it?  In other words, you say you have reason to believe, but you still have none.  Got it.

Let me know when you've definitively found some, and not just because someone told you they did and it must be it.  When you show me the actual matter, I'll have no choice but to concede that it exists.

I don’t give a rat’s ass what choice you think you have. You can think there is no oxygen because you can see it, and you can think there is a god because someone said god said there is a god.  

Now go away, shove the Bible up your ass, and then take it out and lick it for some more words from god.

So still none?  Got it.  Well, your religion not mine then.

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Come on, M4X, don't get distracted!

Keep up the good talk:

Intelligence is usually defined as the ability to solve problems... let me see in the dictionary...

I hope this is a satisfactory source:
https://philosophynow.org/issues/98/Info...telligence
""
Unlike belief and knowledge, intelligence is not information: it is a process, or an innate capacity to use information in order to respond to ever-changing requirements. It is a capacity to acquire, adapt, modify, extend and use information in order to solve problems. Therefore, intelligence is the ability to cope with unpredictable circumstances. But intelligence is not merely analytical: to survive and flourish in society, we must also have social and emotional intelligence.
""

But then there is also this one:
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.100...0-0870-9_3
""
There is no agreed-upon definition of the concept of intelligence neither in psychology nor in philosophy. Experts’ definitions differ widely.
[...]
the power of good responses from the point of view of truth or facts (Thorndike) — the ability to carry on abstract thinking (Terman) — having learned or ability to learn to adjust oneself to the environment (Colvin) — the capacity for knowledge (Henmon); the capacity to acquire capacity (Woodrow)
""


If you disagree with these guys, feel free to provide your own and let's go from there.

About dark matter... well... gravitational effects have been observed where no matter can be observed to produce them. So, if we can't see it, it's because it's dark.
Go outside, pick up some dirt, let the sun set in a moonless night and look at the dirt on your hand. That's dark matter. It produces no light for it to be observed.

In the case of cosmic dark matter, the thing is a bit more complicated, because it seems to emit no radiation at all, while your dirt will emit some IR from temperature, and some other spectroscopic emission lines from natural radioactive isotopes. Dark matter emits nothing of the sort, but is well masked within the background microwave emission.

Sounds convenient when you can know something is there without saying you actually observed it, but rather cite something that may or may not indicate it to try and prove it.  To suggests it accounts for 85-95 percent of the matter in the universe is nothing but fantasy and sensationalism.   But you know, it's an "excuse" why the original Big Bang prediction was a bust.  Couldn't account for all the gaps, splits, pockets, etc... in CMB, so make up something to account for it that can't be disproven due to the inability to observe it directly.  Not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one.

[Anomalocaris]

Tell you want, you go stew in your Jesus juice, and we will do our “fantasy and sensationlism”, deal?

[Peebothuhlu]

So, now it would seem that M4X doesn't accept the infromaton the professional Astronomers have?

Strange.

Not at work.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

So, now it would seem that M4X doesn't accept the infromaton the professional Astronomers have?

Strange.

Not at work.

I accept what you can show empirically.  So far it's a lot of me asking, and a lot of you "not showing" the supposed item.  If you'll blindly believe something, then that's your choice.  No reason for me to assume you're correct, or even incorrect, until you've got something more than just people telling you to believe something.

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Tell you want, you go stew in your Jesus juice, and we will do our “fantasy and sensationlism”, deal?

Yep, you do that.  When you find said item, let me know.

[Anomalocaris]

Yet you drink your Jesus juice, even though no one has shown you the Jesus that supposedly ejaculated the juice.