Homosexuals and Heaven

[ElDinero]

I dont see that. Many people have shared there medical history with me and vice versa, its interesting. I work fast food(maybe$10,000) but that momentarily earning is only right now and is subject to change just like cures for medical problems. But sex that is the odd one out, limited by laws, desired and wanted frequently and yet it is hush, hush or its none of your business. It haunts victims who were raped(non consented sex) and i have heard a loss of innocence and purity when subjected to its truth.
You said it yourself you wouldnt ask your sister because you dont care but also if you did you probably wouldnt like it. But it is sex, that is the concept and act, restricted from the public and young. Some of the worst crimes seem to be sexual crimes against unsuspecting people.
If its none of my business, i want to know why?
Human nature towards sex is the problem but sex is the sin.

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You want to know why it's none of your business? What are you on about? Because it fucking well isn't. Because what I do with my body and the body of somebody else who consented to sex with me is the business of me and them and nobody else. Why do you think it should be your business?

I don't understand what bringing up criminal acts such as rape has to do with anything. If you're trying to imply a link, then it's idiotic.

The fact that you claim 'many people' have shared their medical history with you is really fucking worrying. Did you ask them to, you invasive weirdo? It doesn't really matter either way. The point stands that plenty of people would not be comfortable sharing that information or details about their salary with others. Do you think that's wrong of them?

I also think you've misunderstood what I said about my sister. She's an adult and is entitled to do as she pleases. It's not that I would disagree with things my sister was doing in bed, it's that I don't want to have thoughts about my sister getting nailed. I don't think this point should require further explanation.

[cdog]

Really C Rod, you don't understand why a person wouldn't want to share personal details with a stranger? Pretty sure you're lying, but whatever. Also, you're right, people who know each other sometimes do share these kinds of details, *gasp* sometimes even about sex!

Sure sex can be pure and innocent. I wouldn't put it that way myself, I'm reading it as "can sex be an enjoyable experience with no negative consequences". If you're trying to ask is it "pure and innocent" always, it's a bit of a non-point. What about drinking water or walking in the park? Too much water at once can kill you and too much sunlight over time can give you skin cancer.

You've said a few times now the phrase "sex is the sin". So am I right assuming you believe sex is immoral?

[Napoléon]

Would you say sex is pure and innocent?

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY.

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This cunt is trolling now, he's not providing anything reasonable to the discussion and is merely prodding for responses. He isn't interested in the answers to the questions he's asking in the slightest. TROLLOLOLOLOLOOLOL.

[Cinjin]

You know what makes the sign even stupider? The tag-line of the church found directly beneath the name ... "Finding and Feeding His Sheep"

And people wonder why we don't give them respect. Sheep!

[frankiej]

Drugs are bad..lol

You obviously haven't taken many

[salty]

C Rod, are you trying to say that having sex without the intent to have children is wrong? Or that sex is just inherently dirty and wrong?

- and Salty you haven't really answered any questions. ElDinero asked you repeatedly, what exactly is immoral about homosexuality, and you just keep saying "they don't fit together", "they can't have children", "the bible says so".

Moral behavior is using the body, the mind and words in ways that they were meant to be used, hence right conduct.

Immoral behavior is the misuse of the body, the mind and words, hence, bad conduct.

Homosexuals are misusing their bodies and their minds to promote sexual and romantic relationships in ways they were never intended. How do we know what is intended? We look at the visible signs around us, let's use something that isn't sexual in nature.

You have cable now and you want to connect it to your television, there's only one way for it to properly line up right? There may be other places that look similar to the entry place, but only the correct entry will produce a functioning cable connection. All other places were not intended for the connection to happen and when the user tries to force the unintended sections to become intended, the cable doesn't function, though the pieces are working. You can tape it on, you can jam it in another spot, you can bend and reshape the pieces, but if you do not follow the manufacturer's instructions you will not get the right result!

Also, think of the purpose of the vagina and the penis. Do you think that semen has some sort of nutritional value and my disagreement with homosexual behavior is stopping people of all genders from receiving it? No, semen is meant to fertalize an egg, to procreate, sex feels good because if it was painful we wouldn't be eager to do it. What about the vagina, do you think women get monthly periods because they feel like shedding their uterus lining? No, the uterus was meant to hold a child, it has a cycle, pre-programmed, happening without a woman's permission. The vagina is clearly a port to the uterus for the intention of procreation.

Homosexuality: When people decide that they will be in a relationship that involves sexual indulgence for pleasure's sake, because their incompatible sexual organs do nothing to fulfill the intended use of their bodies, they are misusing their minds (lust, deception) and their bodies; they are immoral.
Lust: they desire the feeling that sex will give.
Deception: they know their bodies do not procreate or fit, therefore they use tactics only to create the feeling they desire.
*you will notice I left off commitment because I have witnessed a homosexual couple be commited to each other for over 10 years. the deception comes when someone thinks that sex was made only for pleasure's sake.

Fornication: When people decide that they will be in a relationship that involves sexual indulgence for pleasure's sake, they are misusing their minds (lust, deception) and their bodies; they are immoral.
Lust: they desire the feeling that sex will give.
Deception: they have the ability to end one relationship and choose another because there is no commitment binding them, even after binding their bodies together through intercourse.

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You know what makes the sign even stupider? The tag-line of the church found directly beneath the name ... "Finding and Feeding His Sheep"

And people wonder why we don't give them respect. Sheep!

That sign demonstrates that church goers are just as sinful as everyone else, doing all their little deeds in the darkness as well. I can't stand when people "threaten" things with Hell. It should simply be that people want to do the right thing because they desire to be moral people, not just hanging punishment over their heads. As you know, I do believe Hell is a real place, but I do not think it needs to be used that way!

The sinner that put that sign up is immoral, they are misusing words to intentionally threaten and hurt people!

[5thHorseman]

'Homosexuals are misusing their bodies and their minds to promote sexual and romantic relationships in ways they were never intended. How do we know what is intended? We look at the visible signs around us, let's use something that isn't sexual in nature.'

It's their choice what they do, to THEIR minds, it is correct.



'You have cable now and you want to connect it to your television, there's only one way for it to properly line up right?'

Jesus fucking Christ.

[frankiej]

Homosexuality isn't a choice, yet you speak as if it is.

Attraction is natural, you can't help it... And if it goes further, you can't help who you fall in love with, even if they are the same gender as yourself.

Of course acting upon it is the part where there is a choice... But, they have every right to act upon their feelings, I encourage them to.

If you don't act upon your own feelings and aren't true to yourself then you are going against everything you NATURALLY are.

[ElDinero]

If only our bodies were less complicated, like televisions. Safe, safe televisions.

[cdog]

Immoral behavior is the misuse of the body, the mind and words, hence, bad conduct.

Human bodies aren't "made" for flying, so is that immoral?

Now you seem to be arguing that any sex not for procreation is wrong, that if it's just for pleasure then it's "wrong" or "not what it was intended for". But earlier you said

No, sex within marriage that does not yield children is not sinful. It's not sinful because the couple have the right organs to conceive, sadly their bodies are not properly functioning.

So is sex for pleasure fine, as long as it's between a person with testicles and means of delivering sperm, and a person with a uterus? Is any sex other than vaginal sex between two heterosexual people wrong? If a woman has had a hysterectomy is any sex she has wrong?