DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Pat Mustard]

Catholics rarely even mention Revelations, I think they are embarrassed bit. I certainly was ,at 16.

That's because it was never supposed to be canonical. Early "scholars" realised quickly that it was too obvious a fake and did their damnedest to ensure it didn't get in, but it was snuck in and left there.

[CDF47]

Man has dominion? Is that why animals never attack?

Man can outsmart and subdue animals.

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Again God set the moral code as love God and neighbor and He gave the Ten Commandments.

....okay, and..again...bye bye moral objectivity, we've got some slavin to defend.

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Now we know that you reject whatever god created this world, and you from monkeys if a god created this world or you....and that you deny the concept of right and wrong.  That's quite the cult you've gotten yourself into.

God sets the moral standard not each individual man, thank God.

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The Lord determines the moral standard, not man.

And more lies. I determine my moral code, not some magic sky fairy.

Or are you now claiming that atheists have no morals?

And if your god determines the moral standard, why is mine better?

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I just know that it was designed based on the proof inside of DNA.  The design implementation is being clarified by scientists.

Oh boy is it being clarified by scientists. It is being clarified by scientist that we can do better.

It is just temporary.  Man has always had dominion over the beasts of the earth.

Possibly the dumbest claim yet.

Man disobeyed God.

How did adam know it was wrong.

Man does not determine individual moral codes.  That would be very dangerous.

Adam knew not to disobey God because God gave a direct command and told Adam he would surely die if He did not follow God's command.

[The Grand Nudger]

....okay, and..again...bye bye moral objectivity, we've got some slavin to defend.

....?

Now we know that you reject whatever god created this world, and you from monkeys if a god created this world or you....and that you deny the concept of right and wrong.  That's quite the cult you've gotten yourself into.

God sets the moral standard not each individual man, thank God.

..if you say so, but if you say so, then..yet again, bye bye moral objectivity, we've got some slavin to defend.

I don't think that you realize I'm not arguing with you?

[CDF47]

I believe it is when the fall happened, yes, then they would surely die.

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Again God set the moral code as love God and neighbor and He gave the Ten Commandments.

1. There is no life-form on the planet Earth that does not die. There is no evidence anything changed that made man mortal.
BTW, you're contradicting yourself. If man always had immortal souls, then he didn't really die anyway. So which is it ? Die or not die ?
2. The 10 Commandments came from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. None of the moral codes,
(and there are many moral codes which pre-date the10 Commandments), come from the gods.

I didn't say man has immortal souls.  I said God created man's body and his soul.  He can destroy both.  We can be reborn and receive eternal life by believing in Jesus the Lord.

The Ten Commandments come from God's hand and God's hand only.

[The Grand Nudger]

Pass.

[CDF47]

You mean the 613 commandments, dumbass.

 Just so. 

They are collectively known as 'the mitzvot',or just 'the law', meaning The Law Of Moses. They may all be found in the Torah, also known as the pentateuch. (Greek for 'five books')

"The tradition that 613 commandments (Hebrew: תרי"ג מצוות, taryag mitzvot, "613 mitzvot") is the number of mitzvot in the Torah, began in the 3rd century CE, when Rabbi Simlai mentioned it in a sermon that is recorded in Talmud Makkot 23b.[1]

Although there have been a lot of attempts to codify and enumerate the commandments contained in the Torah, the most traditional enumeration is Maimonides'. The 613 commandments include "positive commandments", to perform an act (mitzvot aseh), and "negative commandments", to abstain from certain acts (mitzvot lo taaseh). The negative commandments number 365, which coincides with the number of days in the solar year, and the positive commandments number 248, a number ascribed to the number of bones and main organs in the human body (Babylonian Talmud, Makkot 23b–24a).[2] Though the number 613 is mentioned in the Talmud, its real significance increased in later medieval rabbinic literature, including many works listing or arranged by the mitzvot. Three types of negative commandments fall under the self-sacrificial principle yehareg ve'al ya'avor, meaning "One should let oneself be killed rather than violate it". These are murder, idolatry, and forbidden sexual relations.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments

The link below is to a full list of the mitzvot.

http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm


There is some confusion among Christians about The Law Of Moses.

Jesus said categorically, that he had no come to change The Law , by "a jot or a tittle" (English translation.)---Then along came Paul. He abolished all the ritual mitzvah, including dietary laws and the bris* (circumcision) I did that so gentiles could join, which they did, in great numbers. Being very similar to at least one of the mystery religions Christianity  became an instant hit with the marginalised, especially women and slaves.

 Matthew 5:18

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Of course, apologists tend to hav a rather different  interpretation, as they always do when dogma might be contradicted. 


* This is not one of the 613 mitzvah, but part of Abraham's covenant with god.

All the Scriptures are inspired by God.  We are no longer under the law but under the grace of God.

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I believe it is when the fall happened, yes, then they would surely die.

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Again God set the moral code as love God and neighbor and He gave the Ten Commandments.

1. There is no life-form on the planet Earth that does not die.

There is an immortal jelly fish. It gets killed by predators or accidents but not of old age.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii

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I notice CD said DNA is evidence for a designer but yet again failed to say how the designer designed, or implemented its design or introduced any actual evidence. Just the long refuted claim, again.

I just know that it was designed based on the proof inside of DNA.  The design implementation is being clarified by scientists.

All this tells me is that you are ignorant on how it could happen without design.
Not that it couldn't happen without design.
in fact you have been told often how it could happen without design.

The complex and functional information in DNA could not have come about by chance. It could have only come about by design.  Clear as crystal.

[Bucky Ball]

I didn't say man has immortal souls.  I said God created man's body and his soul.  He can destroy both.  We can be reborn and receive eternal life by believing in Jesus the Lord.

The Ten Commandments come from God's hand and God's hand only.

You may not have said that man has immortal souls, but Christianity does. According to Christian theology Adam had an immortal soul. He could not die.
You really should take a class in your cult.

The Ten Commandments were taken directly from the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
Of course you know nothing about ancient literature and cultures.
You have no evidence for your bogus claims.

[CDF47]

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Just because my mother read me the Bible at probably the age of 2 on up does not mean I am brainwashed.  My parents also taught me math, reading, and writing prior to kindergarten.  Does that mean they were brainwashing me?  No.  Again, I took a critical look at my faith many times so I am not brainwashed.  Based on all the evidence before me, I believe Christianity is the one and only true faith.

You're not a Christian if you need to have your faith based on the ''evidence before you". When you actually read the Bible you will find out that St. Paul tells you that Christian faith is a gift of your god, and it has nothing to do with you or any sort of reasoning process OR "proofs" from your DNA clap-trap, however WRONG you are about DNA proving a designer.

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I have faith in the Lord.  The Bible also says let us reason together and promotes reason and logic.

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Catholics rarely even mention Revelations, I think they are embarrassed bit. I certainly was ,at 16.

That's because it was never supposed to be canonical. Early "scholars" realised quickly that it was too obvious a fake and did their damnedest to ensure it didn't get in, but it was snuck in and left there.

It is not fake.  All the Scriptures are the inspired word of God.  Revelation predicts future events to unfold similar to Daniel's dream.  It is highly symbolic and a great book of the Scriptures.

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God sets the moral standard not each individual man, thank God.

..if you say so, but if you say so, then..yet again, bye bye moral objectivity, we've got some slavin to defend.

I don't think that you realize I'm not arguing with you?

That's good.  Then it is clear to you that God's commands on morality out weigh man's moral code.

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I didn't say man has immortal souls.  I said God created man's body and his soul.  He can destroy both.  We can be reborn and receive eternal life by believing in Jesus the Lord.

The Ten Commandments come from God's hand and God's hand only.

You may not have said that man has immortal souls, but Christianity does. According to Christian theology Adam had an immortal soul. He could not die.
You really should take a class in your cult.

The Ten Commandments were taken directly from the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
Of course you know nothing about ancient literature and cultures.
You have no evidence for your bogus claims.

Adam would not die unless he ate of the apple which he did.  At that point he became mortal.  Pretty basic and simple to understand.

The Ten Commandments are the inspired Word of God.

[Abaddon_ire]

And more lies. I determine my moral code, not some magic sky fairy.

Or are you now claiming that atheists have no morals?

And if your god determines the moral standard, why is mine better?

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Oh boy is it being clarified by scientists. It is being clarified by scientist that we can do better.

Possibly the dumbest claim yet.

How did adam know it was wrong.

Man does not determine individual moral codes.  That would be very dangerous.

Back to lying again. I just told you that I do it. I have to make moral judgments every day. Those judgements come from me. Not some magic sky fairy. Not some magic book.

So you are lying.

Adam knew not to disobey God because God gave a direct command and told Adam he would surely die if He did not follow God's command.

Adam didn't know it was wrong. Adam didn't die.

And don't trot out the inevitable excuse that he did die eventually after 930 years. God stated that it would be the very same day in Gen 2:17. Not to mention god got scared at the idea that Adam could eat from the other tree and become like him. Gen 3:22

[Pat Mustard]

Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends.

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That's because it was never supposed to be canonical. Early "scholars" realised quickly that it was too obvious a fake and did their damnedest to ensure it didn't get in, but it was snuck in and left there.

It is not fake.  All the Scriptures are the inspired word of God.  Revelation predicts future events to unfold similar to Daniel's dream.  It is highly symbolic and a great book of the Scriptures.

Of course it is, liar. Being in the bible is a dead giveaway. It's not known as the world's most idiotic fantasy novel for no reason, you know.

PS, if you're a christian, tell me this, which version if genesis is the approved one? The "god created light" or the "Adam and Eve" one? They are mutually exclusive.