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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 26, 2019 at 8:46 pm
(March 26, 2019 at 8:40 pm)Draconic Aiur Wrote: The republicans are only intrested in one thing: Make america one party
BINGO,
And if we are going to admit that it is about protecting wealth at the top, which everyone should admit. Then the truth is our wealth wants the same authoritarian capitalism model of China. And for any asshole liar to claim the private sector does not exist in Communist China, how can they explain all the cheap crap Americans buy from Walmart and dollar stores that all are marked with "Made In China"?
Our GOP is not interested in worker stability, they are looking at China's exploitative authoritarian capitalism and looking to screw workers over like China does.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 9:18 am
(March 26, 2019 at 4:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 26, 2019 at 3:55 pm)Drich Wrote: Minimum wage does not mean a living wage. minimum wage was the rock bottom show up with a pulse and hold this broom, and try and not hurt yourself wage given to weak minded people as a token that slavery was a thing of the past. However if you wished to work for less a job in agriculture would always suspend any and all workers rights. however if you want to make more you had to earnit. here's an idea get off your lazy asses and learn a trade, most trade job double collage jobs now. time to wake up and go to work rather than taking 10 years off working a crap job and demanding to sustain yourself till you finally decide to clock in to a career.
Nobody is looking for a handout. I am sick of that bullshit. Nobody is claiming you should pay a dishwasher the same as a neurosurgeon.
If you'd do some research on our allies who are far more stable, you'd know the pay gap is nowhere near as bad as it is here.
You cannot simply keep exploding the gap between the top and the bottom. It is no different than trying to stretch a rubber band beyond it's capacity.
The pay gap is right where it should be because stoner jobs or stupid people who flood the market with one skill or degree, should not make as much as someone who puts in the time to learn a trade or job no one wants up front. Dream chasers should not be paid to follow their dreams. life should be hard and unforgiving if for no other reason than to wake people up and put themselves to work or force them to better themselves.
The problem with the work force is everyone wants top dollar no one wants to work no one wants to put in extra study no one wants to spend a weekend going to a supplement course even if it means increasing their over salary. Those who get it excell and tend to break off on their own work their asses off and sometimes make it big, when they do they should be rewarded with whatever they can earn.
other wise what would be the point? why did steve Jobs put so much time in apple? why did he push and develop All that he did? Why does elon musk devlop an electric car and have his own space program? You take their money all the forward thinking slows to a crawl, as those billion fund not only what is going on today but any future ideas of projects. take that money and give it to some a-hole who's only reason for being at work is because his mom demands he does something else besides smoke pot and play video games all day!
The same is true with smaller companies like us. take an extra 20 or 30% from us and that's the whole profit margin! Meaning everything we worked for for the last 30 years now puts us in a spot if we are lucky to break even and if there is a slow year we have no savings let alone capital for any new hires or future projects!
That pay gap allows us to employ people to buy equipment (I bought 75 commercial trucks and vans last year, most where new.) those vans gave 12 to at one point 15 people jobs, and gave raises to everyone. We could do this because I had way way more money at my disposal as an owner than any one of my employees. Granted tis is not take home pay but it is net worth which is what fake news/rigged pole count as pay gap. We were only able to do all of this because trump gave back 20% of our taxes. which increases our profit margin from 10 to 15% under obama to putting money back in our pockets at a 30 to 25% rate, so we can do what we do best and that is work our markets and make money, which again means we spend money buying other people offerings and contribute our own creating a strong economy and even a stronger job market.
Under obama at my peek I had maybe 10 people working for us, and was lucky to kick out two units a month=24 commercial truck and vans.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 9:21 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2019 at 9:23 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Heaven forfend some hellworld where you only take a single digit or low double digit salary over the employees you depend on. You'd be a pauper forced to subsist on dry cereal and catfood...like your employees?
Go ahead though, tell us more about how your driving motivation for installing a traitorous thief in whitehouse was pure unmitigated greed.
Did greed turn you into a loon too, do you have to say nutter shit to satisfy that impulse? It seems to me like some of this stuff is elective, lol.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 9:22 am
(March 26, 2019 at 8:40 pm)Draconic Aiur Wrote: The republicans are only intrested in one thing: Make america one party
uuh. no.
All we want is to show people the truth of what the "dims" have become. Not looking to bring people into the fold, but at the same time we want you to see the level of socialism the dims are calling for will break this country which is what they want.
In truth if america falls to debt then the EU can come in and save us all in a push to become a one nation world. and all it will cost us is our constitutional rights!
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 9:26 am
Sure, sure, obama personally held your business down and the EU is waiting in the wings to invade america.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 9:34 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2019 at 9:41 am by Drich.)
(March 27, 2019 at 9:21 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Heaven forfend some hellworld where you only take a single digit or low double digit salary over the employees you depend on do. You'd be a pauper forced to subsist on dry cereal and catfood...like your employees?
Go ahead though, tell us more about how your driving motivation for installing a traitorous thief in whitehouse was pure unmitigated greed.
Did greed turn you into a loon too, do you have to say nutter shit to satisfy that impulse? It seems to me like some of this stuff is elective, lol.
I have employees who take home more than I do, who live in bigger houses than I do who drive nicer cars andI own a car lot on top of the commercial refrigeration stuff. One of my guys makes double what I take home sport. again What my guys make is based on what they bring in/ how fast and efficiently . that said the company makes a hella lot more than what the guys do otherwise we could not afford to have them in our employ.
Not to mention from the very first time I hired a guy their pay always came first. there where many pay periods where I did not get a check so we could cover pay role, and i and my bills had to wait for a customer to pay a bill or two. or in super slow times I've taken out personal loans so that in 15 years no one has ever had any problems with what they did earn.
(March 27, 2019 at 9:26 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Sure, sure, obama personally held your business down and the EU is waiting in the wings to invade america.
not just my business sport look at the GDP under obama's 8 years and look what the GDP has done under trump and his tax relief!
Obama told us there was no way he nor anyone else could change the economic growth or lack there of. Trump turned the economy on it's ear inside of a year by allowing small business the room they needed to grow their businesses.
Got to face it sooner or later sport. Trump knows what it takes to make money for himself and for the country at larger. They don't give away billions of dollars to anyone, you gotta earn it and you gotta work to keep it. if nothing else allow us the time to bring the comfort of living standard back up for a little while then decide you want to go back to socialism.
As far as the EU is concerned, if the infrastructure of the US fails and my trucks stop delivering food to your grocery stores and the country riots and the citys burn what organized force would be big enough or funded well enough to feed this country when we turn it into vensulella?
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 9:43 am
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Good, then what do you have to worry about from a raise in minimum wage? That more people will have more money to buy your merch?
Your new god makes money by defaulting on loans and trading on the office, lol.
Let's take a break from funhouse mirror land and consider some facts. We'll use 1950, since the trumpists seem to be obsessed with that decade for reasons. CEOs already made 20 times the pay of employees. However, at the minimum wage then it took all of 50 some odd hours to pay rent, a half an hour to go see a movie. The top marginal tax rate, 84%.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 5:06 pm
"There are a lot of people out there that have done some very, very evil things, some bad things. I would say some treasonous things against our country... And hopefully people that have done such harm to our country... will be looked at. I've been looking at them for a long time... They lied to Congress, many of them. You know who they are."
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 5:29 pm
Guys under the impression that he's the country.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 27, 2019 at 10:47 pm
(March 26, 2019 at 5:43 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 26, 2019 at 5:40 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I never said I was convinced by the conclusions drawn from the report. I simply said I'm willing to let it go right now.
You are so transparently biased that it's humorous. You're also blinded by your own biases. I'm not saying I'm convinced of Trump's innocence. I'm saying I'm willing to let it go... for now.
You scream conspiracy only when it fits YOUR narrative gae. You're honestly a joke and you don't even realize it.
That makes no sense.
First off this was a summery, not the full thousands of pages report.
Secondly you can let it go if you wish, but there would be no reason for Mueller to sign off on the summery that said "not exonerated", which means Mueller was leaving the door open for congress and separate state investigations.
And I am fully open to hearing what they'd have to say if said investigations took place. What's so hard to grasp about that?
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