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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 29, 2019 at 3:59 pm
(March 27, 2019 at 9:22 am)Drich Wrote: (March 26, 2019 at 8:40 pm)Draconic Aiur Wrote: The republicans are only intrested in one thing: Make america one party
uuh. no.
All we want is to show people the truth of what the "dims" have become. Not looking to bring people into the fold, but at the same time we want you to see the level of socialism the dims are calling for will break this country which is what they want.
In truth if america falls to debt then the EU can come in and save us all in a push to become a one nation world. and all it will cost us is our constitutional rights!
Say the guy loyally blinded to a giant circus called the Republican Party.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 30, 2019 at 12:27 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2019 at 12:29 am by fredd bear.)
"Minimum wage does not mean a living wage. "
Umm, well actually, it does in Oz. (at least technically)
As of today,30 march 2019, minimum wage in Oz $18.93 an hour or $719.32 per 38 hour week. That is enough for a single person to survive.
HOWEVER, over the last 30 odd years we have seen the gradual casualisation of labour, including that current model of fairness, the zero hour contract.
In the service and hospitality industries especially, working a full week at a given job has become increasingly rare.
In my opinion the issue of wages and conditions of ordinary workers is one of ideology, not economics. Plus of course the old fashioned avarice of 'the owners of the means of production".
It is my position that natural resources such as oil, gas ,minerals, belong to the people, and may not be sold, only licensed and taxed. That a government has no money; it's all ours. One of the main responsibilities of government is the redistribution of wealth, in the form of social justice. This includes ,but is not limited too, health, education and welfare. Of course I will immediately saddle Trevor, my dragon, and fly around parliament house as soon as this all happens.
When I was growing up, Australian Industrial Relations revolved around "The conciliation And Arbitration Commission " a non partisan, non political body which controlled wages and conditions. Trade unions also had a a lot of clout.
Today we have The Fair Work Act "of 2009. Unions are a shell of their former selves.
In the 1950's Oz had "The means basic wage" . This was an amount upon which it was reckoned that a man with a wife and 2 children could live "in modest comfort".
Next came a basic wage based on"the capacity of industry to pay". Instituted by a socialist Labor government. This was based on the quaint notion
that a worker has the right to a reasonable amount of the profit from his labour. That wasn't around for very long.
Today, most manufacturing industry has left my state for overseas. There is a shift away from unskilled labour.
It confuses the hell out of me. I've also been told the Keynesian economics I just about understood is wrong.
I reject conspiracy theories as a category. However, I DO accept the collusion of common interests, such as say oil and mining, pharmaceuticals and the tobacco industry.(still happening) I don't think they actively set out to fuck the workers. They set out to maximise profits and are without ethics or morality in the means they use. Cost of labour is simply another cost to be minimised.
Of peripheral interest; I think it was the US who first legally recognised the public company as a person. In the US, and I suspect elsewhere, a public company is legally obliged to benefit its stockholders, above all others. They are not expected to act in the common good, at all. They are expected to obey the law, in so far as this is convenient for them.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
March 30, 2019 at 6:40 am
(March 29, 2019 at 3:59 pm)Draconic Aiur Wrote: (March 27, 2019 at 9:22 am)Drich Wrote: uuh. no.
All we want is to show people the truth of what the "dims" have become. Not looking to bring people into the fold, but at the same time we want you to see the level of socialism the dims are calling for will break this country which is what they want.
In truth if america falls to debt then the EU can come in and save us all in a push to become a one nation world. and all it will cost us is our constitutional rights!
Say the guy loyally blinded to a giant circus called the Republican Party.
In the rest of the world the republican party is considered to be evil, robbing the poor to give to the rich, reverse robin hoods if you will. I suppose if you are immersed in their bullshit you are too close see it.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
April 2, 2019 at 1:14 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2019 at 1:16 pm by Drich.)
(March 30, 2019 at 12:27 am)fredd bear Wrote: "Minimum wage does not mean a living wage. "
Umm, well actually, it does in Oz. (at least technically)
As of today,30 march 2019, minimum wage in Oz $18.93 an hour or $719.32 per 38 hour week. That is enough for a single person to survive.
HOWEVER, over the last 30 odd years we have seen the gradual casualisation of labour, including that current model of fairness, the zero hour contract.
In the service and hospitality industries especially, working a full week at a given job has become increasingly rare.
In my opinion the issue of wages and conditions of ordinary workers is one of ideology, not economics. Plus of course the old fashioned avarice of 'the owners of the means of production".
It is my position that natural resources such as oil, gas ,minerals, belong to the people, and may not be sold, only licensed and taxed. That a government has no money; it's all ours. One of the main responsibilities of government is the redistribution of wealth, in the form of social justice. This includes ,but is not limited too, health, education and welfare. Of course I will immediately saddle Trevor, my dragon, and fly around parliament house as soon as this all happens.
When I was growing up, Australian Industrial Relations revolved around "The conciliation And Arbitration Commission " a non partisan, non political body which controlled wages and conditions. Trade unions also had a a lot of clout.
Today we have The Fair Work Act "of 2009. Unions are a shell of their former selves.
In the 1950's Oz had "The means basic wage" . This was an amount upon which it was reckoned that a man with a wife and 2 children could live "in modest comfort".
Next came a basic wage based on"the capacity of industry to pay". Instituted by a socialist Labor government. This was based on the quaint notion
that a worker has the right to a reasonable amount of the profit from his labour. That wasn't around for very long.
Today, most manufacturing industry has left my state for overseas. There is a shift away from unskilled labour.
It confuses the hell out of me. I've also been told the Keynesian economics I just about understood is wrong.
I reject conspiracy theories as a category. However, I DO accept the collusion of common interests, such as say oil and mining, pharmaceuticals and the tobacco industry.(still happening) I don't think they actively set out to fuck the workers. They set out to maximise profits and are without ethics or morality in the means they use. Cost of labour is simply another cost to be minimised.
Of peripheral interest; I think it was the US who first legally recognised the public company as a person. In the US, and I suspect elsewhere, a public company is legally obliged to benefit its stockholders, above all others. They are not expected to act in the common good, at all. They are expected to obey the law, in so far as this is convenient for them.
Guess all we need is a proper lollipop guild to negotiate labor and wages and we'd be all set as well.
Just quick question does the magical land of OZ also spend 668 billion to 1.1 trillion a year on welfare?
So If we jack upour labor rates to 15 an hour does this mean we can drop the 1 trillion dollar well fare componet to our taxes meaning we get a 40 to 60% tax reduction?
If we can get a 60% taxe reduction I promise to give everyone 20 dollars an hour.. just so long as there is no welfare!
(March 30, 2019 at 6:40 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (March 29, 2019 at 3:59 pm)Draconic Aiur Wrote: Say the guy loyally blinded to a giant circus called the Republican Party.
In the rest of the world the republican party is considered to be evil, robbing the poor to give to the rich, reverse robin hoods if you will. I suppose if you are immersed in their bullshit you are too close see it.
what is the rest of the world?
illegal immigrants who have no skills or even a grasp of the language? those not looking to assimilate into the american culture but to bring their culture into the us?
I'm ok with that.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
April 2, 2019 at 1:16 pm
If the rest of the world is "out to get US", then why haven't the superbeings from the Grim Old Party kicked their asses?
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
April 2, 2019 at 1:20 pm
...jesus christ......there's the problem with the murrican voter wrapped up in two short sentences.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
April 2, 2019 at 1:26 pm
(April 2, 2019 at 1:14 pm)Drich Wrote:
(March 30, 2019 at 6:40 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: In the rest of the world the republican party is considered to be evil, robbing the poor to give to the rich, reverse robin hoods if you will. I suppose if you are immersed in their bullshit you are too close see it.
what is the rest of the world?
illegal immigrants who have no skills or even a grasp of the language? those not looking to assimilate into the american culture but to bring their culture into the us?
I'm ok with that.
The rest of the world as in ALL the rest of the world. More enlightened and superior countries such as, in my case England.
Oh and re-Mueller.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
April 2, 2019 at 1:27 pm
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Quote:Just quick question does the magical land of OZ also spend 668 billion to 1.1 trillion a year on welfare?
Quick answer: The same way they were able to have a $7 billion budget surplus. It's called 'sound fiscal policy'.
How's the US doing on that score?
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
April 2, 2019 at 1:43 pm
(April 2, 2019 at 1:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quote:Just quick question does the magical land of OZ also spend 668 billion to 1.1 trillion a year on welfare?
Quick answer: The same way they were able to have a $7 billion budget surplus. It's called 'sound fiscal policy'.
How's the US doing on that score?
Boru
Massive deficit spending on an enormous global military that facilitates trade between nations and foreign investment within nations. We make the world safe to do business in for nations such as Australia and New Zealand. You're welcome. Unfortunately, all of that spending comes at the expense of not being able to afford healthcare for our citizens.
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RE: Mueller report. OP/ED
April 2, 2019 at 1:48 pm
(April 2, 2019 at 1:43 pm)Yonadav Wrote: (April 2, 2019 at 1:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quick answer: The same way they were able to have a $7 billion budget surplus. It's called 'sound fiscal policy'.
How's the US doing on that score?
Boru
Massive deficit spending on an enormous global military that facilitates trade between nations and foreign investment within nations. We make the world safe to do business in for nations such as Australia and New Zealand. You're welcome. Unfortunately, all of that spending comes at the expense of not being able to afford healthcare for our citizens.
ONLY TWO Presidents cut the debt or balanced the budget since Reagan, none of them were republicans.
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