Loved ones in heaven?

[Jaysyn]

Hey! Where'd he go?

Probably ran off cause he's allergic to reason or logic.

[Minimalist]

Too bad...this would have been timely.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/2011100...BA1O0.html

On Friday, Robert Jeffress, the lead pastor at First Baptist Church in Dallas, introduced Perry as "a committed follower of Christ." Perry thanked him, and said Jeffress had "hit it out of the park." Afterwards, Jeffress told reporters Romney was "not a Christian" and that Mormonism is a "cult." Jeffress had repeatedly made similar comments during Romney's 2008 campaign.

Back to the old "my god has a bigger dick than your god" debate.

[xxxtobymac]

I hate when people start spewing off bible scriputres as proof of anything. "O it say in the bible that bla bla bla. and you should do this because the bible says, bla bla". is it really that hard to get when you read the bible everyone in it or writing it is freakin drunk. But I do ejoy reading these arguement on my post. no matter how far off the subject it gets...lol

[Godscreated]

I am not trying to decide who is a christian and who is not, i am sorry if it came of that way.

Min's point is that they are not christians only by YOUR definition, and you are not the one who gets to decide what defines a christian on this planet. Those christians who do not fit your definition will simply say that you yourself are the one who is not a true christian according to THEIR definition.

You see his point?

Every christian believes he is right and the other christians are wrong. Look at Westboro Baptist. Those imbeciles believe that they are the TRUEST of christians and there's no way you could ever convince them otherwise.

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Regarding the actual topic of the OP...

Let's look at what Christ said to His disciples, "you will know them(christians) by their fruits." "Not everyone who says to me,' Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of the Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, 'Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name,and do many mighty works in your name?' And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me,you workers of lawlessness.' So yes true christians will know the false ones and Christ said not all who claim to be christian will enter the kingdom of heaven. Quite simple really.

[5thHorseman]

So being that the gospels were written, say on average 40 years after Jesus apparently died, who took the notes to record his quotes?

[The Grand Nudger]

"If he who departs from the body goes to another world,
how is it that he come not back again, restless for love of his kindred?
Hence it is only as a means of livelihood that Brahmans have established here
all these ceremonies for the dead, — there is no other fruit anywhere."

[Minimalist]

Let's look at what Christ said to His disciples,

First you have to demonstrate that there was a "christ" or any fucking disciples. Reading about it in your novels is not convincing.

[Epimethean]

There are far better zombie stories, though few have such horrible endings.

[reverendjeremiah]

There are far better zombie stories, though few have such horrible endings.

I must admit..damn near every book of the bible is HORRIBLY written, with the exception of Job and Revelations...and even then they are twisted fucks.

[Godscreated]

"If he who departs from the body goes to another world,
how is it that he come not back again, restless for love of his kindred?
Hence it is only as a means of livelihood that Brahmans have established here
all these ceremonies for the dead, — there is no other fruit anywhere."

what?