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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 11:42 am
A couple of things. Obviously, you’re applying your examples to public figures. That’s different from personal relationships. Also, no shit people are more protective of people they like. It’s par for course.
What bothers people about insulting the dead is that they can’t answer these insults. In this case, it’s also added to the pain of losing a friend. Whether or not you were bullied by this person, your comments have been tasteless. That’s fine if that’s your brand, but it’s every bit the truth.
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 12:42 pm
(July 22, 2019 at 8:44 am)Belaqua Wrote: It wasn't slander because what I said is true.
Would you be offended by insults against Osama bin Ladin, even though he's not here to defend himself? I think you wouldn't.
So what I said is true: we feel comfortable insulting people we don't approve of, and apply a different standard to people we do approve of.
What surprises me is that people are so adamant that it is good to insult the living -- who may be hurt -- and not the dead -- who can't be.
From my point of view you deserve whatever you are given. In your vaunted philosophy, that you use others work as your own you still can't admit the simple truth that you get what you ask for. So GM was somewhat comparable to Bin Laden. I will wait until you explain to me that. One was a murderous fundie, another broke your fragile ego.
Your last paragraph is of the utmost comedy. The living are here withnessing your sensibilities and you dare to strike at the dead, to make your point.
Funny that we are the snowflakes. And I don't even known GM that much, it doesn't matter. One day you will realise that the universe doesn't exist in your mind.
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 4:47 pm
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(July 22, 2019 at 8:44 am)Belaqua Wrote: (July 22, 2019 at 8:06 am)LastPoet Wrote: The person you slandered can't do that. Yet, instead of realising your fault in this, you decided to double down with a foolish comparision.
When it comes to insults, as they say, sticks and stones can break my bones, words, never will.
It wasn't slander because what I said is true.
Would you be offended by insults against Osama bin Ladin, even though he's not here to defend himself? I think you wouldn't.
So what I said is true: we feel comfortable insulting people we don't approve of, and apply a different standard to people we do approve of.
What surprises me is that people are so adamant that it is good to insult the living -- who may be hurt -- and not the dead -- who can't be.
I don't think it is true, you have certainly not demonstrated it to be true. The deceased certainly was NOT a bully, I was on the forum for 4 years with this guy others even longer and I never saw him bully anyone he was a cool dude with a great sense of humour he was also a kind person, I saw him stick up for newcomers several times even when they behaved less than optimally. So that's one lie you've told that I'm almost certain of for starters.
You just repeated your attack on the dead man in the post quoted above which is pretty damn vile but at this point not entirely to be unexpected as you have absolutely zero integrity, any shreds of respect I still had for you at this point have now evaporated completely, I will waste no more time on you.
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 5:05 pm
(This post was last modified: July 22, 2019 at 5:08 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:It wasn't slander because what I said is true.
Prove it
Quote:Would you be offended by insults against Osama bin Ladin, even though he's not here to defend himself? I think you wouldn't.
Osama Bin Laden killed thousands of innocent people this is a proven fact . You have yet to provide any evidence of your claim that person said some mean things on the internet .
Quote:So what I said is true: we feel comfortable insulting people we don't approve of, and apply a different standard to people we do approve of.
You literally have not and as an aside if you merely don't approve of Osama bin Ladin that's disturbing
Quote:What surprises me is that people are so adamant that it is good to insult the living -- who may be hurt -- and not the dead -- who can't be.
Too bad you never refuted the reason that is
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 5:29 pm
(July 22, 2019 at 12:42 pm)LastPoet Wrote: From my point of view you deserve whatever you are given.
Of course you do! As I said, insults are encouraged here, if they're against the out-group.
Quote:In your vaunted philosophy, that you use others work as your own
What does "vaunted" mean here? And I never use the work of others as my own. In fact I attribute the different ideas I refer to in order to avoid claiming others' work. So many people in history have been smarter than I am -- why should I disregard their work?
Quote:So GM was somewhat comparable to Bin Laden. I will wait until you explain to me that. One was a murderous fundie, another broke your fragile ego.
Don't be silly. I didn't compare the two. I used an example of someone we could insult after death, to show that this rule is applied selectively. And GM didn't break my ego. But he did post insults on TTA.
Quote:One day you will realise that the universe doesn't exist in your mind.
Of course it doesn't exist in my mind. Other people post things and I remember them.
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 5:39 pm
At this point it would actually be a good thing that Rob isnt reading responses.
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 5:40 pm
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Quote:Of course you do! As I said, insults are encouraged here, if they're against the out-group.
The forum rules say otherwise
Quote:Don't be silly. I didn't compare the two. I used an example of someone we could insult after death, to show that this rule is applied selectively. And GM didn't break my ego. But he did post insults on TTA.
If that was your goal you failed miserably as has been pointed out . I imagine he did . Prove it .
Quote:Of course it doesn't exist in my mind. Other people post things and I remember them.
Nope you claim them
(July 22, 2019 at 5:39 pm)Aegon Wrote: At this point it would actually be a good thing that Rob isnt reading responses.
Yup I imagine he would be ashamed of this thread
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 6:02 pm
We all jousted and traded insults on TTA especially with trolls and the wilfully ignorant that's not bullying unless you have a serious safe space trigger warning mentality about things besides the rules on TTA permitted it and the deceased did no more of it than anyone else certainly not to the extent that normal people would consider it bullying.
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 22, 2019 at 6:42 pm
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Quote:But he did post insults on TTA.
He used humor and sarcasm. He did not "post insults".
We know you have no sense of humor.
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RE: A postscript to "what happened to me"
July 23, 2019 at 12:23 pm
(July 22, 2019 at 5:29 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Of course you do! As I said, insults are encouraged here, if they're against the out-group. Right. Note to myself, the next time I act like an asshole and others call me out for being an asshole, Í will just claim its groupthink.
I prefer to re-analise my stance. You be you. You are now tripling it down. You should stay with your vaunted philosophers. You're horribad at human interaction and basic decency.
Quote:Don't be silly. I didn't compare the two. I used an example of someone we could insult after death, to show that this rule is applied selectively. And GM didn't break my ego. But he did post insults on TTA.
But you did. You went out of your way to talk smack of a dead guy that according to people that knew him was a decent guy, because he insulted you. Oh the horror. Ya know, the more you talk, the more I think it was deserved, if it happened.
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