A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.

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It isn't even argument.  It's simple assertion.

Boru

But it's reasonable assertion because we see it manifesting around us all the time.

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Somebody tell this guy humans ARE animals.

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mamallia
Order: Primate
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: Sapiens

Even though the human being is an animal like all the other species, we are distinct because we're the only animals that has a divine reality.

[LastPoet]

Drinking game, each time he explains anything away with "divine reality", whatever that is, take a vodka shot.

[The Grand Nudger]

This is one of those games that ends with people in the hospital, isn't it.

[unityconversation]

Hi.

So the perspective that I have is that, we will never fully and completely know God.

The only way to know God is to know His names and attributes.

Even though the human being is an animal just like all other species, we are distinct because we have a divine reality.

The human being has the potential to display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level, that's what makes us have dominion over the animal.

The names and attributes of God are basically all of the good qualities that is possible for the human being to have, it's just that society doesn't call them that.

The human being is the most perfect of all creation.

I dunno mate, not very convincing. 

Instead of being distinct because we have "divine reality" im fairly sure science says its because we have a conscious

I think uve tried to link our consciousness with God but failed. There are explanations that make it possible in my eyes

Your explanation needs refining, to put it kindly

You said: "I dunno mate, not very convincing."

Ok, that's fine

You said: "Instead of being distinct because we have "divine reality" im fairly sure science says its because we have a conscious"

Well every animal has a conscious, that not distinctive.

You said: "I think you've tried to link our consciousness with God but failed."

Nope, not at all. Like I said all animals has consciousness, but it is only the human being has a divine nature and can manifest the qualities of God to the physical world.

[The Grand Nudger]

Careful, the pack animal you're loading down may not be able to carry all that baggage.

[unityconversation]

1. That's essentially what I just said.

2. This is not about me changing my original post, even though I haven't. Questions are asked on the forum and I try to answer them it's just that simple. You don't have to ask me anything, you don't even have to reply.

3. So how is it a nonresponsive dodge?


Chimps and birds doesn't "invent" anything. All that can do is by instinct, use the natural resources directly around them to make very simple things like nests and sticks to grab insects. That is a farcry from things we human beings can invent.

Animals don't find it necessary and they can't find it necessary, they will never have that capacity.

Do you mean to tell me right now that mere ants and bees can build cities exactly just like the technically advanced cities that human beings build, are you serious?

Once again, are you telling me that mere apes can build
technically advanced social states/civilizations just like humans can?

Yes, other animal has gone into space, and guess what, "human beings sent them there."

"you don't get to argue a god into existence."
Now I'm kind of confused about that statement. I thought that atheists wanted a good argument about God's existence???

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There you go again, you want physical evidence for a non physical entity.

Let me ask you something about the example you just gave. Forget that the dragon is invisible, what is the reason and the meaning of the dragon doing in your basement in the first place?

We're always looking for a physical spectacle, but we deny the spiritual and divine meanings of things.

I’m going to explain to you how this works. When you make a claim that something exists, you need to be able to demonstrate it, or else we have no reason to believe you.

Ok, and the human being itself is the "demonstration."

[The Grand Nudger]

People exist, therefore god. I guess that settles it.

[LastPoet]

People exist, therefore god.  I guess that settles it.

If he is arguing that because humans are the only capable of having a concept of god then god exists.

There are many things we conceptualize, a cursory look at the nutbar internet proves this. There is a way to test concepts and demonstrate to others those concepts exist, e.g. semiconductor gate properties. Not so much about this "divine reality concept, or the concept of god for that matter.

[The Grand Nudger]

Nah, he was asked to provide a demonstration of this "divine reality" business, claimed that there was no physical evidence, and then pointed to very physical human beings as the evidence. You know..on account of how we're manifesting™ stuff all the time, and the right stuff, the stuff on his list of stuff.

If superstitious beliefs were a wine, the baha'i faith would be a flavorless brandy distilled from all the most hilariously inept portions of each one.

[LadyForCamus]

I’m going to explain to you how this works. When you make a claim that something exists, you need to be able to demonstrate it, or else we have no reason to believe you.

Ok, and the human being itself is the "demonstration."

Human beings are a demonstration of human beings. Where is your demonstration of a god?