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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Every time he opens his mouth he's preaching, and his message is always a hateful one, same as the rest.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:07 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 10:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Care to flesh that out, or is this another one of those things I'm to accept because you say so? My sinful nature wasn't created by god? Good to know I have some leverage over your delusions, and that not everything requires creation by the same.
Scripture is quite clear that there are no unbelievers who are able or even desire to do good. A sinful nature is not a material thing, so it was ordained by God but it is not something that was created like you mean here.
(October 25, 2011 at 10:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: How do you know what his inclination is? You're bordering on preaching, Stat. Ease up.
ETA: Having looked at the post above it, you are preaching.
I am not allowed to answer a question I am asked? If he doesn't wish to be preached to then he should not ask a Christian what their position on sin and free will is right?
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:07 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 10:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Every time he opens his mouth he's preaching, and his message is always a hateful one, same as the rest.
I am positive he is capable of conveying his beliefs without preaching or being hateful. I know plenty of Christians who do. This is why he has the option to quit judging people.
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm
(October 25, 2011 at 10:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Every time he opens his mouth he's preaching, and his message is always a hateful one, same as the rest.
Why would you ask a Christian for their position on these matters and then accuse them of preaching to you? That’s absurd
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Quote:Scripture is quite clear that there are no unbelievers who are able or even desire to do good.
Scripture is the first refuge of the ignoramus. -- Pat Condell
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:10 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2011 at 10:11 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(October 25, 2011 at 10:07 pm)Shell B Wrote: (October 25, 2011 at 10:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Every time he opens his mouth he's preaching, and his message is always a hateful one, same as the rest.
I am positive he is capable of conveying his beliefs without preaching or being hateful. I know plenty of Christians who do. This is why he has the option to quit judging people.
Are you judging me for judging? Maybe you need to ease up :-)
(October 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Scripture is quite clear that there are no unbelievers who are able or even desire to do good.
Scripture is the first refuge of the ignoramus. -- Pat Condell
I think looking to comedians for advice on serious matters is a sign of ignorance myself.
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:11 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2011 at 10:13 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Scripture could be described as almost anything except "quite clear". You have something more meaty than this? Something verifiable?
(I dont mind being preached at Stat, the rules of this forum aren't my own. Personally, I think listening to believers preach is about the quickest way to rid ourselves of the whole idiotic business)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2011 at 10:15 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(October 25, 2011 at 10:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Scripture could be described as almost anything except "quite clear". You have something more meaty than this? Something verifiable?
The verse I am referring to is clear as day. Why would I point to anything else regarding these matters? These are biblical matters so we need to refer to the Bible.
(October 25, 2011 at 10:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (I dont mind being preached at Stat, the rules of this forum aren't my own. Personally, I think listening to believers preach is about the quickest way to rid ourselves of the whole idiotic business)
I was not preaching at you or to you, I was simply answering your questions which I am entitled to do.
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:17 pm
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You like to refer to the bible. I haven't seen anyone demonstrate any point where it is needed, for anything. I haven't seen anyone demonstrate that it is an authority, on anything.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why did god create evil?
October 25, 2011 at 10:17 pm
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(October 25, 2011 at 10:10 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Are you judging me for judging? Maybe you need to ease up :-)
Statler, no one asked for your opinion on their "sinful" nature, so do not play innocent. I am not judging you personally. I am simply bearing witness to your behavior. Preaching is forbidden here, with very good reason. Refrain from telling people how sinful they are and how corrupted they are. This is not a discussion.
Back to topic sans preaching, please.
Rhythm, do try to attack his argument and not him. I know from experience that it is difficult, but it just gets him off-topic.
So far we have:
1. God doesn't really give you choices.
2. However, if you choose to sin it is your choice.
Is that about right? Carry on.
(October 25, 2011 at 10:14 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I was not preaching at you or to you, I was simply answering your questions which I am entitled to do.
He did not ask you your opinion on his character. You asserted that yourself.
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