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Why won't God heal amputees?
#71
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
(June 4, 2020 at 9:07 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:
(June 4, 2020 at 8:02 am)Belacqua Wrote: Here's a common way to think of it: I know what I would do if I were God. And since nobody's doing that, it's proof that there's no God. 

But here's another way to think of it:

Look at it this way. If there were a God, what would it be for? Obviously, the only thing a God would be good for is making people like me happy. Because otherwise it would be worthless. 

Now you and I are Internet atheists. We come on the Internet to talk about atheism. And what is it that makes Internet atheists happy? Judging from this forum, it makes us happy to go on line every now and then and demand to know why God doesn't heal amputees. Do a search on the Internet and see how many times the same question has been asked.

So if God started healing amputees, it means that people like me would lose something that makes us happy. We couldn't ask our question any more. 

So clearly, the fact that God doesn't heal amputees proves there is a God.

Bel?

You have seriously jumped the shark.

There is just so much fekked with the above that I'm just going to say 'Fek it' and move on.

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I'm teasing two ideas that some atheists use when arguing against God.

1) I know what I would do if I were God and nobody's doing it, therefore there is no God. And

2) If there were a God his job would be to make us happy. 

The amputees thing relies on these. But I see no reason to assume that a God would be that way.
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#72
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
(June 4, 2020 at 7:10 pm)Little lunch Wrote:
(June 4, 2020 at 10:38 am)SUNGULA Wrote: You can't uncrumple paper. The damage has been done

You can uncrumple paper.
But will it be asi it was before ?
"Change was inevitable"


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#73
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
(June 4, 2020 at 8:35 pm)Belacqua Wrote:
(June 4, 2020 at 9:07 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Bel?

You have seriously jumped the shark.

There is just so much fekked with the above that I'm just going to say 'Fek it' and move on.


I'm teasing two ideas that some atheists use when arguing against God.

1) I know what I would do if I were God and nobody's doing it, therefore there is no God. And

2) If there were a God his job would be to make us happy. 

The amputees thing relies on these. But I see no reason to assume that a God would be that way.

Uhm.. okay... cool... kind'a.

Maybe use more emotes an' stuff to show your level of sarcasm?

Because, just reading through the previous posts? Yeah, your intent did not seem to come across.

Also... both of those comments would seem to come from very young and undeveloped/undredeveloped Atheists.

Perhaps seek a higher level/mor mature of idea distortion?

I was very much tempted to say "Belaqua, put the Saké DOWN! You done be swoozy, mate." Wink

Cheers.

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#74
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
Quote:I'm teasing two ideas that some atheists use when arguing against God.
Accept nobody was nor is that point of the argument 


Quote:1) I know what I would do if I were God and nobody's doing it, therefore there is no God. And
Asking the legit question  that if a good entity existed and had the power to help .Why wouldn't it? Is not a question of gods existence .So fail


Quote:2) If there were a God his job would be to make us happy
An argument the question nowhere implies .So again fail 


Quote:The amputees thing relies on these. But I see no reason to assume that a God would be that way.
No it doesn't ,And no ones saying it would .So again fail
"Change was inevitable"


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#75
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
(June 4, 2020 at 8:35 pm)Belacqua Wrote:
(June 4, 2020 at 9:07 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Bel?

You have seriously jumped the shark.

There is just so much fekked with the above that I'm just going to say 'Fek it' and move on.

Not at work.


I'm teasing two ideas that some atheists use when arguing against God.

1) I know what I would do if I were God and nobody's doing it, therefore there is no God. And

2) If there were a God his job would be to make us happy. 

The amputees thing relies on these. But I see no reason to assume that a God would be that way.

3) Theists claim that Gawd performs miracles but the best that he can ever seem to manage is showing up on your cheese sandwich. Look for something less ambiguous and more impressive and you're destined for disappointment.

It isn't what I expect God to do. I expect God to not exist. It's what his followers claim God does.
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#76
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
If heaven is paradise, and the amputees will earn back their lost pieces, why will so many women be reunited with their virginity?  Does god think they want that?  Because we know otherwise Muslim heaven will be far short of virgins.

Moreover, how is working my way through so many virgins reward for anything?  That's some perverted shit.  I'll pass.  I didn't want a 12 year old when I was 12.  I wanted your mom, you sick fucks.  If heaven isn't all about hookers and blow, it's not even a birthday, much less paradise.
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#77
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
(June 4, 2020 at 10:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Justice delayed is justice denied.

You're aware that no one is asking you about what happens in heaven, correct?  Could I fairly state that your answer to the question of whether god could or should be merciful and heal amputees wrongly convicted, or return people to their youth, is no.

Not necessarily. The delay of this life is short compared to the next life.

(June 4, 2020 at 10:29 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 4, 2020 at 9:14 am)WinterHold Wrote: I would also like to ask about the prisoner who went to jail for years mistakenly. 
Though their hand is coming back to them in the afterlife.

When you take away an innocent man’s freedom, you can restore it to him. You can compensate him financially. A prison sentence for theft (generally) has an end. Mutilation is for life. A wrongly convicted 25 year old man, under your savage system, is punished for the next 50 - 60 years for a crime he didn’t commit.

What price a hand?

Boru

Life behind bars is not "merciful" or "has a better side"; it's halting the inmate's life for years and wasting precious years from it that he could've lived with one hand outside bars.

Freedom; that is. Taking it off is a living hell, even with 2 hands.

(June 4, 2020 at 6:11 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:
(June 4, 2020 at 7:15 am)WinterHold Wrote: No. The hand of the thieve is not meant to grow back in this life, that's how serious the sentence is.
Just like the years taken from an inmate in prison; hands are just like years: they don't grow back.

How about the good little Muslim kid whose hand is blown off by some American imperial scum™?

Even the devil looks after his own.

Kids are not included in the sentence; one has to be old enough to realize the weight of their action.
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#78
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
Quote:Not necessarily. The delay of this life is short compared to the next life.
Any delay

Quote:Life behind bars is not "merciful" or "has a better side"; it's halting the inmate's life for years and wasting precious years from it that he could've lived with one hand outside bars.
Yes it is compared to the permenant mutilation and psychological scarring . And mutilating someone reduces their quality of life ,And prison isn't a waste cutting off a hand is a waste .


Quote:Freedom; that is. Taking it off is a living hell, even with 2 hands.
Crippling someone is taking away their freedom.

Quote:Kids are not included in the sentence; one has to be old enough to realize the weight of their action.
Go tell that to muslim countries mutilating ten year olds you psychopath
"Change was inevitable"


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#79
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
(June 5, 2020 at 2:10 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(June 4, 2020 at 10:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Justice delayed is justice denied.

You're aware that no one is asking you about what happens in heaven, correct?  Could I fairly state that your answer to the question of whether god could or should be merciful and heal amputees wrongly convicted, or return people to their youth, is no.

Not necessarily. The delay of this life is short compared to the next life.

The hell are you talking about?  Spending a single moment being punished for something you didn't do is injustice. 

Your answer is no.  We've found something that you think your god is incapable of, or unwilling to do.
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#80
RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
(June 5, 2020 at 2:10 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(June 4, 2020 at 10:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Justice delayed is justice denied.

You're aware that no one is asking you about what happens in heaven, correct?  Could I fairly state that your answer to the question of whether god could or should be merciful and heal amputees wrongly convicted, or return people to their youth, is no.

Not necessarily. The delay of this life is short compared to the next life.

(June 4, 2020 at 10:29 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: When you take away an innocent man’s freedom, you can restore it to him. You can compensate him financially. A prison sentence for theft (generally) has an end. Mutilation is for life. A wrongly convicted 25 year old man, under your savage system, is punished for the next 50 - 60 years for a crime he didn’t commit.

What price a hand?

Boru

Life behind bars is not "merciful" or "has a better side"; it's halting the inmate's life for years and wasting precious years from it that he could've lived with one hand outside bars.

Freedom; that is. Taking it off is a living hell, even with 2 hands.

(June 4, 2020 at 6:11 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: How about the good little Muslim kid whose hand is blown off by some American imperial scum™?

Even the devil looks after his own.

Kids are not included in the sentence; one has to be old enough to realize the weight of their action.

Yes.  Nine years old.  You would chop off the hand of a nine year old girl for stealing a piece of candy.

Try answering a direct question:  Have you ever been in prison?

Boru
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