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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 7:15 am
(June 13, 2020 at 6:41 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote: (June 13, 2020 at 6:38 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The message in the story was that blacks didn't really have it that bad during the slavery era. This is part of an effort to show that the Antebellum South was the victim in the Civil War.
I'm going to just keep repeating that you're talking about a piece of fiction until you explain to me why a fictional character saying that something is true in a fictional reality has any impact on morality in our actual real reality.
(June 13, 2020 at 6:38 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Because certain depictions of black people and the history of the confederacy required context
Again, I'd understand if 'Gone with the wind' is a true story but it isn't.
If a fictional character makes a truth claim in a fictional universe then why does that matter?
To me this is as absurd as banning Star Wars because Darth Vader wanted to wipe out whole planets with the death star which not only endorses Hitler's genocide of 6 million jews but endorses the act of a genocide far more extreme than even Hitler's genocide. Sigh fictional depictions of something that actually happened
Star wars is pure fiction there was never Death Star or The Empire or Darth Vader or the Destruction of Alderaan . Slavery actually happened in the American South the Confederacy was very real . See the difference.
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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 7:16 am
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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 12:27 pm
I don't understand why people think propaganda has no effect.
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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 1:05 pm
(June 13, 2020 at 12:27 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I don't understand why people think propaganda has no effect. Indeed do people think propaganda ministries are mythological or something ?
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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 1:07 pm
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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 4:08 pm
Sunny G:
It doesn't i'm just i have problem with what HBO did
Accept no ones saying don't enjoy it . How does adding context alter that .
Accept no one's been stifled
All I am saying is I don't understand why people have an issue and take offense with make-believe, when reality is far worse. It's just a thought process that boggles my mind.
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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 6:16 pm
(June 13, 2020 at 4:08 pm)no one Wrote: Sunny G:
It doesn't i'm just i have problem with what HBO did
Accept no ones saying don't enjoy it . How does adding context alter that .
Accept no one's been stifled
All I am saying is I don't understand why people have an issue and take offense with make-believe, when reality is far worse. It's just a thought process that boggles my mind. Had a problem with them temporarily taking something down you can enjoy anywhere
I'm not following you . I never said they won't enjoy it, And context will not alter it
Indeed no ones being stifled
Because it's fiction reflecting reality and we can at least contextualize fiction in a way we can't with reality and i think we should .
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June 13, 2020 at 6:26 pm
I am not talking about you particularly, I just don't get why people get offended so easy.
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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 6:29 pm
(June 13, 2020 at 6:26 pm)no one Wrote: I am not talking about you particularly, I just don't get why people get offended so easy.
Umm i'm not offended i was just responding
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RE: HBO removes Gone with the wind.
June 13, 2020 at 11:50 pm
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