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RE: Question about "faith"
October 1, 2020 at 4:33 pm
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Growing up is a thing that all animals do - a ritual or ceremony celebrating conceptual milestones, up to and including death, is not. We don't seem to have been doing things like that ourselves for 3/4 of the time that we've been anatomically modern.
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RE: Question about "faith"
December 21, 2020 at 3:45 pm
Faith to me, is defined in personal sacrifice to a deity. While atheists do not believe in deities, they do believe in personal sacrifice, for example they believe in what other atheists say. They also put all their eggs in what basket, and refuse the believe in truth according to the bible, and blame all religions in general for what one religion does. Not all faiths are the same.
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RE: Question about "faith"
December 21, 2020 at 4:30 pm
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Sacrificing anything to a deity is wrong. Abraham was a schizophrenic psychopath and would be in an institution today.
Personal Sacrifice for a firmly-held value can be a good thing. But don't expect a deity or your friends to reward you for it. Do it because you believe it is right, and your reward is in your own conscience. Lots of atheists do this. While this can be encompassed by some definitions of faith, I would not like that name.
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RE: Question about "faith"
December 21, 2020 at 4:38 pm
(December 21, 2020 at 3:45 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote: Faith to me, is defined in personal sacrifice to a deity. While atheists do not believe in deities, they do believe in personal sacrifice, for example they believe in what other atheists say. They also put all their eggs in what basket, and refuse the believe in truth according to the bible, and blame all religions in general for what one religion does. Not all faiths are the same.
Eggs come in a single container. Are you saying I should take them out of that container and split them between several? That would risk breakage. That's bad advice coming from someone who puts the entirety of his beliefs in the bible basket.
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RE: Question about "faith"
December 21, 2020 at 6:23 pm
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(December 21, 2020 at 3:45 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote: Faith to me, is defined in personal sacrifice to a deity. While atheists do not believe in deities, they do believe in personal sacrifice, for example they believe in what other atheists say. They also put all their eggs in what basket, and refuse the believe in truth according to the bible, and blame all religions in general for what one religion does. Not all faiths are the same.
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RE: Question about "faith"
December 22, 2020 at 8:13 am
when we apply faith to religion and god, who determines what the unknown and unseen is? the church? your pastor? the bible? it’s he who claims to know the unknown. and we all have an equal right to do that. so how can any individual or organization claim to know what god is or what god wants?
with no direct evidence there will always be conflicting ideas,contradictions and at least minor conflict.
science is a system where nothing is taken as true without direct evidence and repeatable demostration of this evidence. there has to be criteria and “experiments” that can disprove any claim that is made. if something cant be disproven it cant be taken as fact.
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RE: Question about "faith"
December 22, 2020 at 8:53 am
(December 21, 2020 at 3:45 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote: Faith to me, is defined in personal sacrifice to a deity. While atheists do not believe in deities, they do believe in personal sacrifice, for example they believe in what other atheists say. They also put all their eggs in what basket, and refuse the believe in truth according to the bible, and blame all religions in general for what one religion does. Not all faiths are the same.
You do realise that of the bible all that is good in it is not new, and all that is new in it is not good?
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RE: Question about "faith"
December 22, 2020 at 9:50 am
(September 10, 2020 at 7:54 pm)rockyrockford Wrote: If "faith" is defined as "complete trust or confidence in someone or something".(dictionary.com) As an atheist, do you have complete confidence or trust in anything? or anyone? If so, what is the foundation for that "complete" faith.
I'm not looking for an argument, so you don't have to be guarded. I'm simply wanting to learn more about your belief, or absence of belief.
Having faith has more to do with no knowing something for sure or not having much basis for believing something to be true—the minute you have some basis to believe in something but yet don’t have proof, it’s still not faith but belief.
Faith is really the opposite site of the spectrum of knowing something by evidence. There are many positions in between these two positions (fact based on empirical evidence and faith).
Having faith should be the last resort when all other possibilities have exhausted.
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