I have some questions for the posters here.

[Frank Apisa]

I read the OP. Then I came here.

What the fuck happened in between?

A whole bunch of shit...some of it interesting and funny...some of it sob-provoking.

Usual Internet forum stuff.

[The Grand Nudger]

Usual in your experience? You see it everywhere you are? Ever wondered why that might be?

[Frank Apisa]

Usual in your experience?  You see it everywhere you are?  Ever wondered why that might be?

If that is directed to me...I am not sure of what you are talking about, Nudger.

Gimme a clue. I am dealing with several people here.

[arewethereyet]

Usual in your experience?  You see it everywhere you are?  Ever wondered why that might be?

If that is directed to me...I am not sure of what you are talking about, Nudger.

Gimme a clue. I am dealing with several people here.

You should be able to handle it now that you are ignoring me.

C'mon Scooter, give it all you've got.

[The Grand Nudger]

Indeed, several people here, and an alluded to mountain of decades of internet experience, all of it converging on a single apprehension as told by a single apprehender.

Perhaps the explanation for that lies in the one describing their apprehensions? Right on the surface, that seems to be the common thread. Similarly, I could have misunderstood you, everyone else here could have misunderstood you. We all could have misunderstood you, here and elsewhere, for twenty years. Or it could just be you.

So, let's work on your delivery.

"Hi, I'm an agnostic atheist who doesn't quite understand gnostic atheists, help me out guys" - something like that?

You'll get the same answer I've already given you, and I'll have all the same questions I already asked in return.

[brewer]

Frank no like when not play by Frank definitions/rules. Frank like Frank atheist label only.

Kind of like some theists I know.

I do not ask anyone to "play by my rules."

I do offer an insight into how I am using words that possibly can be misunderstood.

Most theists I know...do not do that. Interesting that the theists you know...do.

Yeah you do. You paint all atheists with the same brush (label/statement/position) and when we tell you that your label is not correct and we each give you what we consider our correct label/position you don't accept it and tell us we're wrong.

Very child like behavior.

Let me ask you, are you, or have you, played this same game on christian sites?

[Frank Apisa]

Indeed, several people here, and an alluded to mountain of decades of internet experience, all of it converging on a single apprehension as told by a single apprehender.

Perhaps the explanation for that lies in the one describing their apprehensions?  Right on the surface, that seems to be the common thread.  Similarly, I could have misunderstood you, everyone else here could have misunderstood you.  We all could have misunderstood you, here and elsewhere, for twenty years.  Or it could just be you.

So, let's work on your delivery.

"Hi, I'm an agnostic atheist who doesn't quite understand gnostic atheists, help me out guys" - something like that?

You'll get the same answer I've already given you, and I'll have all the same questions I already asked in return.

Do not know what you are talking about...but you seem exercised.

I have had lots of Internet experience...been posting in forums since the late 1990's...starting with the New York Times/Boston Globe forum Abuzz. I've been in a dozen other fora since, including the Salon forum.

I've made friends with many atheists in some of those fora. We have a group that used to meet regularly (some of us still meet) in New York City for a few brewskis and some food. Just about every one of the other people are atheists. We get along famously. Lots of ball breaking goes on...but that is to be expected. I play golf 4 days a week...and ball breaking is a MUST when playing golf.

Met up with people (now good friends as well as cyber-friends) from  two different forums in The City. Still do. Probably will have a meet sometime during the next two weeks.

So what is your point?

[vulcanlogician]

I read the OP. Then I came here.

What the fuck happened in between?

SSDTroll

IDK what SSD means. But are you sure he's a troll? 

I'm naive about this shit, but (in my breezing of a few pages of this thread) I don't see it.

[Frank Apisa]

SSDTroll

IDK what SSD means. But are you sure he's a troll? 

I'm naive about this shit, but (in my breezing of a few pages of this thread) I don't see it.

I am not a troll, V. Not in any way. I also do not know what SSD means.

I do have a position I want to put forward, but I can do it without all the nonsense coming my way. In the meantime, I have asked questions of people who declare themselves to be atheists...so that I knw what they are talking about as the discussion moves forward. (If it ever does.)

[arewethereyet]

SSDTroll

IDK what SSD means. But are you sure he's a troll? 

I'm naive about this shit, but (in my breezing of a few pages of this thread) I don't see it.

SSDD is the usual for same shit different day. I just changed it up a bit.

Frankly Scooter is here to tell us what atheists are/believe in because we don't know.