forbidding people to love each other

[The Grand Nudger]

You can’t have a homo hate party without inviting Drich. Let that be a lesson to you all!

[Fake Messiah]

if genes play a role please identify the gene sequencing (in common terms or cut and pate if you don't understand it doesn't matter)

That's not the point. You again quote my post without reading it or, more probably, you are too stupid to understand what you read because the post says "even if he is right about the genes how mental do you have to be, to be bothered if someone is happier in life if he/ she chooses a homosexual way of life?"

It's not that there are no genes for homosexuality, it's that you are an idiot incapable of basic understanding of what you read, and yet you want to participate in the conversation like a pompous asshole.

[tackattack]

So to restate your implied stance for clarity drich,

Genetics have zero affect on homosexuality?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Not to derail all the gay-hating, just want to reiterate that Drich has my permission to PM me his patent number.

Boru

[Drich]

if genes play a role please identify the gene sequencing (in common terms or cut and pate if you don't understand it doesn't matter)

That's not the point. You again quote my post without reading it or, more probably, you are too stupid to understand what you read because the post says "even if he is right about the genes how mental do you have to be, to be bothered if someone is happier in life if he/ she chooses a homosexual way of life?"

It's not that there are no genes for homosexuality, it's that you are an idiot incapable of basic understanding of what you read, and yet you want to participate in the conversation like a pompous asshole.

do you really need me to address the mundane poorly thought out question you presented? because once i do my op here addresses the crux of the issue. Something several other posters have already touched on.

To answer your op, the people are 'bothered here' are not those in the church but those outside of the church. As most do not care that God forbids such a relationship. you people are the one's with a chip, because you assume the position that the church/god has no say in your life. and you will say do quote anything of authority to demonstrate this.

So now that i took the time to directly answer your op, your return volly will double down and prove what i said. then you can now go back and reread my op for that answer.

sorry to skip ahead.. i can do this with some people but i forgot who it was i was speaking with. your avatar should be a sufficient reminder that i need to hold your hand and slowly explain through everything. other wise you get angry confused and lost.

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So to restate your implied stance for clarity drich,

Genetics have zero affect on homosexuality?

none.. Gentics have less than 0 affect on homosexuality. Clear enough? want to ask a follow up?

no?
the allow me to preface this statement.
 Your question is not the same as asking "drich do you think i can find some tertiary article that contradicts you? or Drich do you think i can find some report funded by a special interest group that proves you wrong?" I am sure you can. both accounts..  but again sport finish my op... Just as the excuse for fat shaming is "genetics don't put donuts in your mouth" your non existent gay gene/genetics do even less.

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for the record i DO NOT CARE what gay people do. So long as they do not teach it as being scripturally acceptable. which is not limited to gay people. any sin taught as permissible gets the same response. my view is if your going to sin, there is no need to hid or pretend it's ok. just sin.. tell yourself whatever you like. tell yourself there is no go there is no sin, just don't lie to yourself and say this is not sin in the eyes of god. as there is no way back from that.

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Not to derail all the gay-hating, just want to reiterate that Drich has my permission to PM me his patent number.

Boru

That's not the offer. The offer is PM me your email address and i will send the patent that was filed which includes the number, and all the other paper work including lawyer and correspondence stating the file was accepted and was available to be licensed. so long as none of that info is shared personal business or otherwise.

because the patent number means nothing without confirmation that it is my patent. the filing paper work proves this. but again far too much personal info to post or share openly.

you can confirm it is all legit, do not share details.

[tackattack]

OK so @Drich and @Klorophyll are on the same page, which is genetics don't play any part in homosexuality. I could cite the articles listed, or legitimate scientific studies, if they haven't already. I feel it's a fairly logical and supported position, but let's forgo that for now. Let's say genetics only play a part in whether you have a peepee or a vag (ignoring the neither or both scenario). I'll make it real simple.
1. Genetics determine your equipment
2. Your equipment is part of your sexual identity
3. Your sexual identity is part of your sexual orientation
Ergo: genetics does at least play some part in your sexual orientation.

If we can't even get past the premise, it's not even a chance we could get to the oughts and morality of it.

[The Architect Of Fate]

OK so @Drich and @Klorophyll are on the same page, which is genetics don't play any part in homosexuality. I could cite the articles listed, or legitimate scientific studies, if they haven't already. I feel it's a fairly logical and supported position, but let's forgo that for now. Let's say genetics only play a part in whether you have a peepee or a vag (ignoring the neither or both scenario). I'll make it real simple.
1. Genetics determine your equipment
2. Your equipment is part of your sexual identity
3. Your sexual identity is part of your sexual orientation
Ergo: genetics does at least play some part in your sexual orientation.

If we can't even get past the premise, it's not even a chance we could get to the oughts and morality of it.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Read it and weep kpop, you absolute asstard!

What a stunning fact... no one. I didn't know animals were your role models of sexuality.

Why, yes. There are quite a few women as well as men I find 'Inspirational' regarding nooky.

Why, yes. I do read 'Play-boy' magazines for the articles. Why do you ask?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

That's not the point. You again quote my post without reading it or, more probably, you are too stupid to understand what you read because the post says "even if he is right about the genes how mental do you have to be, to be bothered if someone is happier in life if he/ she chooses a homosexual way of life?"

It's not that there are no genes for homosexuality, it's that you are an idiot incapable of basic understanding of what you read, and yet you want to participate in the conversation like a pompous asshole.

do you really need me to address the mundane poorly thought out question you presented? because once i do my op here addresses the crux of the issue. Something several other posters have already touched on.

To answer your op, the people are 'bothered here' are not those in the church but those outside of the church. As most do not care that God forbids such a relationship. you people are the one's with a chip, because you assume the position that the church/god has no say in your life. and you will say do quote anything of authority to demonstrate this.

So now that i took the time to directly answer your op, your return volly will double down and prove what i said. then you can now go back and reread my op for that answer.

sorry to skip ahead.. i can do this with some people but i forgot who it was i was speaking with. your avatar should be a sufficient reminder that i need to hold your hand and slowly explain through everything. other wise you get angry confused and lost.

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So to restate your implied stance for clarity drich,

Genetics have zero affect on homosexuality?

none.. Gentics have less than 0 affect on homosexuality. Clear enough? want to ask a follow up?

no?
the allow me to preface this statement.
 Your question is not the same as asking "drich do you think i can find some tertiary article that contradicts you? or Drich do you think i can find some report funded by a special interest group that proves you wrong?" I am sure you can. both accounts..  but again sport finish my op... Just as the excuse for fat shaming is "genetics don't put donuts in your mouth" your non existent gay gene/genetics do even less.

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for the record i DO NOT CARE what gay people do. So long as they do not teach it as being scripturally acceptable. which is not limited to gay people. any sin taught as permissible gets the same response. my view is if your going to sin, there is no need to hid or pretend it's ok. just sin.. tell yourself whatever you like. tell yourself there is no go there is no sin, just don't lie to yourself and say this is not sin in the eyes of god. as there is no way back from that.

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Not to derail all the gay-hating, just want to reiterate that Drich has my permission to PM me his patent number.

Boru

That's not the offer. The offer is PM me your email address and i will send the patent that was filed which includes the number, and all the other paper work including lawyer and correspondence stating the file was accepted and was available to be licensed. so long as none of that info is shared personal business or otherwise.

because the patent number means nothing without confirmation that it is my patent. the filing paper work proves this. but again far too much personal info to post or share openly.

you can confirm it is all legit, do not share details.

Sorry I missed your full offer. Even sorrier that I now have to decline (I’m more than a little tetchy about giving out my email address).

But all those sundry documents wouldn’t  be necessary. The patent number would allow me to look up your patent, which would have your name on it - according to US patent law, an inventor cannot opt out of being named in the patent.

Boru

[R00tKiT]

Religion isn’t what makes calculus work.

It doesn't prevent it from working either... which is what you seem to imply by ridiculing religious belief. Newton thought that the laws of physics are a manifestation of God's omnipotence, atheists these days think these laws don't need a lawgiver, it's already clear whose position is ridiculous. 

Did you have any thoughts on my question?  What happens to your beliefs when you insist that a false thing must be accepted?

I don't think I understand your question. what false thing?

And yet not one of them has ever produced actual empirical evidence for a god.  Being an expert at one thing, such as mathematics, does not make someone an authority on something so poorly evidenced that there are no actual experts.

How many times should I repeat it to you, two or three thousand ? It's a category mistake to ask for empirical evidence for an non-empirical being by definition. If you reject other kinds of evidence like inductive or deductive arguments, then you are already irrational. Too lazy to carefully evaluate arguments;

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Seriously, you smarmy little bastard?  I. Am. Not. A. Fucking. Resource.  What you said is unforgivably disrespectful.

You are, just like any other human being from an evolutionary POV. It gets worse -since you are an atheist, you are an animal, just a little higher in the evolutionary ladder than worms or viruses.

Is Darwin a swarmy little bastard too, @Astreja  ?

I directly quote from The descent of man (1871):  "The adult female is the “intermediate between the child and the man”.
And they say Islam discriminates against women 

you are all about the act. You are passing judgement on "people" and comparing them to the sodmites by inferring they are exceedingly sinful. Id' like to point out something to you, All have sinned. We are all sodomites (pursuing unnatural desires) and wicked and rebel against God. We don't do what is good for us, even if we know better.

I am sorry but where, exactly, did I judge anyone here? I simply quoted your bible, you bible is extremely direct and clear about sodomy, and you should be ashame of yourself for even trying to apologize for such a trivially forbidden act;

22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

26 For this reason God gave them up to ddishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, ymen committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
(Romans 1:26-27)

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, (1 Corinthians, 6:9)

So, unless one is blind (or OT isn't the word of God), homosexuality is an obvious non-starter for any christian. The question now is, are you honest enough to acknowledge what your bible says and explicitly condemn the act?

And how exactly do you get from sin to sodomy ? In any case, you are free of course to label yourself a sodomite. 

For instance you are a very loud clanging cymbal right now causing all this discord against believers and God by not practicing any aspect of love.

Did the believers you're referring to read the passages above ? Are you sure you're not defending homosexuality just because it's lawful in your country ?

1. Homosexual sex is condemned by Southern Baptists, this is one of the tenants I disagree with.

Homosexual sex is condemned by your bible, do you disagree with your bible?