forbidding people to love each other

[onlinebiker]

You know, kpop, for someone so dead set against homosexuality, you sure do think a lot about the motions.

And what you want to bet he gets that far- away look on his face?
Bet his BP and heart rate pick up a bit too.....

[Abaddon_ire]

do you really need me to address the mundane poorly thought out question you presented? because once i do my op here addresses the crux of the issue. Something several other posters have already touched on.

To answer your op, the people are 'bothered here' are not those in the church but those outside of the church. As most do not care that God forbids such a relationship. you people are the one's with a chip, because you assume the position that the church/god has no say in your life. and you will say do quote anything of authority to demonstrate this.

So now that i took the time to directly answer your op, your return volly will double down and prove what i said. then you can now go back and reread my op for that answer.

sorry to skip ahead.. i can do this with some people but i forgot who it was i was speaking with. your avatar should be a sufficient reminder that i need to hold your hand and slowly explain through everything. other wise you get angry confused and lost.

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none.. Gentics have less than 0 affect on homosexuality. Clear enough? want to ask a follow up?

no?
the allow me to preface this statement.
 Your question is not the same as asking "drich do you think i can find some tertiary article that contradicts you? or Drich do you think i can find some report funded by a special interest group that proves you wrong?" I am sure you can. both accounts..  but again sport finish my op... Just as the excuse for fat shaming is "genetics don't put donuts in your mouth" your non existent gay gene/genetics do even less.

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for the record i DO NOT CARE what gay people do. So long as they do not teach it as being scripturally acceptable. which is not limited to gay people. any sin taught as permissible gets the same response. my view is if your going to sin, there is no need to hid or pretend it's ok. just sin.. tell yourself whatever you like. tell yourself there is no go there is no sin, just don't lie to yourself and say this is not sin in the eyes of god. as there is no way back from that.

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That's not the offer. The offer is PM me your email address and i will send the patent that was filed which includes the number, and all the other paper work including lawyer and correspondence stating the file was accepted and was available to be licensed. so long as none of that info is shared personal business or otherwise.

because the patent number means nothing without confirmation that it is my patent. the filing paper work proves this. but again far too much personal info to post or share openly.

you can confirm it is all legit, do not share details.

Sorry I missed your full offer. Even sorrier that I now have to decline (I’m more than a little tetchy about giving out my email address).

But all those sundry documents wouldn’t  be necessary. The patent number would allow me to look up your patent, which would have your name on it - according to US patent law, an inventor cannot opt out of being named in the patent.

Boru

Well, I pointed that out. I posted a patent of mine. Drich just will  not do it. Drich wants someone to PM him an email.

Great, I did. We shall see if he is even vaguely honest. Or a flood of religious spam which is what I expect.

[Fireball]

Sorry I missed your full offer. Even sorrier that I now have to decline (I’m more than a little tetchy about giving out my email address).

But all those sundry documents wouldn’t  be necessary. The patent number would allow me to look up your patent, which would have your name on it - according to US patent law, an inventor cannot opt out of being named in the patent.

Boru

Well, I pointed that out. I posted a patent of mine. Drich just will  not do it. Drich wants someone to PM him an email.

Great, I did. We shall see if he is even vaguely honest. Or a flood of religious spam which is what I expect.

You at least used a burner account, right?

[tackattack]

This thread is so far derailed. I guess that’s just the nature of the beast... 🐿

[Astreja]

As far as I'm concerned, a "non-empirical being" is indistinguishable from an imaginary being and can just be ignored.

That's an unproven assertion.

Pro tip: Think really, really hard about what the phrase "As far as I'm concerned" means. I was stating how *I* felt about "non-empirical beings." I see no reason to take them seriously, so I don't.

[no one]

So the drickheads and the klorofools cite their irrefutable mageek huly buuk as confirmation of some grand creator, any time their miniscule and pathetic thinking units are forced to actually you know..... think, a complete system shut down occurs. They revert back to the original script of the validity of their particular fantasy.

Their tiny, tiny brains have never had an imaginative or creative thought in their entire lives! All they know is how to regurgitate the same bullshit they've been grazing on since mommy and daddy made themselves a little sheep.

[Brian37]

Sorry I missed your full offer. Even sorrier that I now have to decline (I’m more than a little tetchy about giving out my email address).

But all those sundry documents wouldn’t  be necessary. The patent number would allow me to look up your patent, which would have your name on it - according to US patent law, an inventor cannot opt out of being named in the patent.

Boru

Well, I pointed that out. I posted a patent of mine. Drich just will  not do it. Drich wants someone to PM him an email.

Great, I did. We shall see if he is even vaguely honest. Or a flood of religious spam which is what I expect.

Back when I first got online to seek out other atheists there would have been a time I would have fallen for a "one on one" e-mail debate. If you remember "Dinesh D'Souza", a famous right winger. He pulled that shit with me back in the early 2000s. I fell for it at first. But when I got stumped, I simply brought his arguments back to the forum I was on at the time, and let the community hit his arguments with sunlight.

I never do one on one private debates now. I figure if you have a valid argument you should have no problem debating it in public where everyone can see it.

When a theist offers you the private debate, you can look at it just like a lion stalking prey trying to peel one off of the herd. Ever see that famous video of the African buffalo initially running from a croc trying to pull a calf into the river while a lion was trying to compete for the same calf? Some alfa member of the buffalo heard must have thought "fuck this shit, I am tired of it", and the heard came back and kicked the lion's ass.

I never do one on one private debates now. I see them as pointless. Just like I shut the door on phone marketers and Multi Level Marketing scams.

If they have something valid, then they should not be afraid of debating it in public.

[Abaddon_ire]

Well, I pointed that out. I posted a patent of mine. Drich just will  not do it. Drich wants someone to PM him an email.

Great, I did. We shall see if he is even vaguely honest. Or a flood of religious spam which is what I expect.

You at least used a burner account, right?

No, I even provided my bank details just in case.

What do you think?

[Brian37]

The case has often been made that Christians are no longer bound by Levitical law (due to Jesus fulfilling it), so the proper attitude toward homosexuality by Christians would be based on what Jesus has to say about it. Here it is, in full:

Even absent Leviticus, homosexuality is explicitly condemned in three passages from the NT. And isn't Leviticus the unaltered word of God ? Are christians supposed to act against this Levitical law after Jesus fulfilled it ??

Can we skip the labels here? Even outside Christians, Muslims and Jews, most of the world has frowned on same sex. China and Japan also don't condone same sex marriage. What humans miss is that there is religion, and natural biology. The only time sex is wrong is when it is by force. Other than that, leave them alone.

CONSENT, not the hole, just like food. I hate mushrooms, but I am not going to demand others don't eat them, if they like it.

[arewethereyet]

This thread is so far derailed. I guess that’s just the nature of the beast... 🐿

First time here?