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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 11:55 pm
(July 3, 2021 at 7:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: If Jesus was born in Muhammad's time and knew about Muhammad, would he join Muhammad, or would Jesus just continue with his ministry without paying attention to Mohammed, or would Muhammad join Jesus and become one of his apostles?
He can't be born in Mohammed's -peace be upon him- time, history abhors a paradox.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 4, 2021 at 12:55 am
(July 3, 2021 at 12:25 pm)no one Wrote: Can't spell thorny without the H-O-R-N-Y.
Dollars to donuts mooHAMed is the bottom.
OK, what's their 'shipped name? Jeez-hammad?
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 4, 2021 at 2:06 am
At work.
My money is on the pair of them absconding over the silk road and converting to Buddhism.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 18, 2021 at 7:07 pm
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2021 at 7:18 pm by Mercyvessel.)
(July 3, 2021 at 7:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: If Jesus was born in Muhammad's time and knew about Muhammad, would he join Muhammad, or would Jesus just continue with his ministry without paying attention to Mohammed, or would Muhammad join Jesus and become one of his apostles?
Hypotheticals... but mankind - the created, ought to follow GOD, the Creator - and not the other way around. To agree with the preceding, one would have to believe in the truth of the Holy Bible.
Muhammad was a man, who finished the Quran approx. 537 years after the last revelation of the Bible to the Apostle John in the Isles of Patmos in A.D. 95 (which is fundamentally against the primary tenet of Christianity that "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." - Acts 4:12 (also John 3:16).
The Lord JESUS, the CHRIST repeatedly declares Who He is.
Like I typically state, we will all come to know at one point or another - hopefully for the good of the person to whom it is revealed at the time that it is.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 18, 2021 at 7:14 pm
(July 18, 2021 at 7:07 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: (July 3, 2021 at 7:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: If Jesus was born in Muhammad's time and knew about Muhammad, would he join Muhammad, or would Jesus just continue with his ministry without paying attention to Mohammed, or would Muhammad join Jesus and become one of his apostles?
Hypotheticals... but man - the created, ought to follow GOD, the Creator - and not the other way around. To agree with the preceding, one would have to believe in the truth of the Holy Bible.
Muhammad was a man, who finished the Quran approx. 537 years after the last revelation of the Bible to the Apostle John in the Isles of Patmos in A.D. 95 (which is fundamentally against the primary tenet of Christianity that "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." - Acts 4:12 (also John 3:16).
The Lord JESUS, the CHRIST repeatedly declares Who He is.
Like I typically state, we will all come to know at one point or another - hopefully for the good of the person to whom it is revealed at the time that it is.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 18, 2021 at 7:20 pm
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(July 18, 2021 at 7:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (July 18, 2021 at 7:07 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: Hypotheticals... but man - the created, ought to follow GOD, the Creator - and not the other way around. To agree with the preceding, one would have to believe in the truth of the Holy Bible.
Muhammad was a man, who finished the Quran approx. 537 years after the last revelation of the Bible to the Apostle John in the Isles of Patmos in A.D. 95 (which is fundamentally against the primary tenet of Christianity that "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." - Acts 4:12 (also John 3:16).
The Lord JESUS, the CHRIST repeatedly declares Who He is.
Like I typically state, we will all come to know at one point or another - hopefully for the good of the person to whom it is revealed at the time that it is.
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"Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” - John 8:57-58
I love watching Muslims and Christians debate each other. It is like watching Star Trek and Star Wars fans debate each other.
There truly can be no debate... they are fundamentally different! I am noting said differences.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 18, 2021 at 7:24 pm
One prophet is just as silly as another. There really is no difference, except in the name of stated prophet.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 19, 2021 at 11:18 am
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(July 18, 2021 at 7:07 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: The Lord JESUS, the CHRIST repeatedly declares Who He is.
And yet, even the people who knew him best didn't believe him, like Jesus’ mother and brothers thought he was possessed by demons in Mark 3:21. They even journeyed from Nazareth to Capernaum to take him away. It is as though they were saying, “That’s enough! We’re hauling you off to a loony bin.” So Jesus scorned his own family ties.
So maybe Mohammed was right when he said that New Testament is corrupt, and that it gives wrong portrayal of who Jesus really was.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 19, 2021 at 3:11 pm
(July 18, 2021 at 7:07 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: <snipping some awful and lying bullshit>
You've got the creator and the created mixed up, idiot. Man created god, in fact man created all gods. Therefore we find that god follows us, not the other way around.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 19, 2021 at 5:39 pm
(July 3, 2021 at 11:55 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (July 3, 2021 at 7:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: If Jesus was born in Muhammad's time and knew about Muhammad, would he join Muhammad, or would Jesus just continue with his ministry without paying attention to Mohammed, or would Muhammad join Jesus and become one of his apostles?
He can't be born in Mohammed's -peace be upon him- time, history abhors a paradox.
All the world's religions, not just yours, but all in human history are full of paradox, contradictions and scientific absurdity. History doesn't abhor a parodox, humans merely hate uncertainty and being finite. Fear of the unknown creeps into human mythology and religion.
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