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Why does science always upstage God?
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 (August 21, 2021 at 7:12 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(August 20, 2021 at 11:15 pm)Mashmont Wrote: The best proof of God are the astoundingly great and accomplished lives of His most devoted believers; the canonized saints of the Catholic Church. That proof/evidence of belief, not proof/evidence of existence.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
RE: Why does science always upstage God?
August 21, 2021 at 7:24 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2021 at 7:27 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The cannonized saints? We talking about the ones who flew around churches and made animals talk...or? I don't wanna be completely dismissive here, and I suspect that those guys probably handed out alot of bread or made alot of bread for the catholic church. That's amazing, in it's own right - but they lose me when they get to the whole verified miracles thing.
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 (August 21, 2021 at 7:24 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The cannonized saints? We talking about the ones who flew around churches and made animals talk...or?Saint Jude cured a stomach ache I was having. My stomach hurt very badly, so I prayed to Saint Jude, because I know he's a Saint of healing, and almost immediately, my stomach ache went away. RE: Why does science always upstage God?
August 21, 2021 at 7:28 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2021 at 7:30 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Hallelujah, I guess? St Judes hospital does good work...but even if st jude cured your tummy ache, I wouldn't rate that as a miracle. The interests of these saints doesn't appear to be particularly broad nor do their treatments appear to be meaningfully effective.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 RE: Why does science always upstage God?
August 21, 2021 at 7:28 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2021 at 7:29 am by Silver.)
Self-fulfilling healing.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (August 21, 2021 at 7:14 am)Ahriman Wrote:(August 21, 2021 at 7:09 am)brewer Wrote: I find your level of cognitive dissonance if disturbing.What cognitive dissonance? Do you even know what that means? Claiming god does things with no evidence results in cognitive dissonance. You demonstrate it with your rationalization, justification and confirmation bias.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
To be fair, it would only cause cognitive dissonance if a person knew better - we can grant that some people are too thick to know better, and therefore relatively immune to cognitive dissonance.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 21, 2021 at 7:29 am)brewer Wrote:Cognitive dissonance is a sensation, not a state of mind, or at least not a "state of mind" in the most decent sense. I've never felt cognitive dissonance, because I know what I'm saying is true.(August 21, 2021 at 7:14 am)Ahriman Wrote: What cognitive dissonance? Do you even know what that means? RE: Why does science always upstage God?
August 21, 2021 at 7:35 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2021 at 7:37 am by brewer.)
(August 21, 2021 at 7:31 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: To be fair, it would only cause cognitive dissonance if a person knew better - we can grant that some people are too thick to know better, and therefore relatively immune to cognitive dissonance. I agree. Maybe I gave Ahriman to much credit because it can type. (August 21, 2021 at 7:35 am)Ahriman Wrote:(August 21, 2021 at 7:29 am)brewer Wrote: Claiming god does things with no evidence results in cognitive dissonance. You demonstrate it with your rationalization, justification and confirmation bias.Cognitive dissonance is a sensation, not a state of mind, or at least not a "state of mind" in the most decent sense. I've never felt cognitive dissonance, because I know what I'm saying is true. Thanks for the unfounded justification.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
And this one time, I lit a white candle in my bedroom, and said a prayer for Saint Lucy, and my chest/heart area got all warm and I suddenly felt better. I had been feeling like shit at the time, and after the prayer, I felt a lot better.
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