Official live update of spread of COVID19

[Rev. Rye]

But for now im focusing on the fact that the vaccines haven't provided immunity like they said it would and hasn't ended the pandemic and lockdowns 

And we’re ignoring that not enough people have taken even a single dose for herd immunity to kick in, even with the conservative estimate of about 70%?

Disagreement about the nature of the virus among experts is one thing, but when one side legit does not understand how herd immunity or vaccination work and the other one does, I know which side I’m going to back.

[Fake Messiah]

“Christian-tinted legal seminars” training folks in Washington state to get religious exemptions to vaccinations

Hundreds of Washingtonians are looking for a way to skirt state COVID-19 vaccine mandates, and one Gig Harbor-based organization led by a Washington State Patrol chaplain is willing to help.

Workshops offering advice on claiming the exemption are drawing large crowds and support from some notable Pierce County Republicans, including two state senators and three state representatives.

Leaders of the nonprofit organization One Washington, which is running the workshops in churches across Washington and Oregon, say they’re not doing anything political, just educational.

At the church events, One Washington has offered tips and coaching on how state employees, health care workers and educators can evade a recent vaccine mandate from Gov. Jay Inslee. Whether the advice is effective is unclear.

Recent workshops at Experience Church in Puyallup and Harborview Fellowship in Gig Harbor were a mixture of legal seminar and revival meeting, complete with Powerpoint slides and a video. Thick crowds of people, mostly unmasked and seated shoulder-to-shoulder, have attended the workshops. One Washington claims thousands have participated thus far, either in person or through a livestream.

https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/coro...42118.html

[Deesse23]

But for now im focusing on the fact that the vaccines haven't provided immunity like they said it would and hasn't ended the pandemic and lockdowns 

And we’re ignoring that not enough people have taken even a single dose for herd immunity to kick in, even with the conservative estimate of about 70%?

The lowest R0 for delta puts it at no less than 5 (9max), resulting in a minimum of 80% full vaccination to achieve herd immunity. The best (major) countries have 70% tops. Thats why the pandemic is still here.....because of idiots who dont want to get vaccinated.

Alpha currently is rated at R0 = 3, which results in 66% for herd immunity. So, yes, initial estimations were correct, for alpha.
Why is it that people like me have to do the homework for idiots like Ronaldo????

[Rev. Rye]

It should be noted that The only territories known to have reached 80% vaccination according to the site I linked yesterday, are Ascension, Gibraltar, Palau, and Malta.

[The Architect Of Fate]

But for now im focusing on the fact that the vaccines haven't provided immunity like they said it would and hasn't ended the pandemic and lockdowns 

And we’re ignoring that not enough people have taken even a single dose for herd immunity to kick in, even with the conservative estimate of about 70%?

Disagreement about the nature of the virus among experts is one thing, but when one side legit does not understand how herd immunity or vaccination work and the other one does, I know which side I’m going to back.

At this point, he's arguing simply for the sake of arguing. He takes educated estimates as certainties then whine when those are modified then the vaccine failed. How silly is that? He also confuses principle with proportion . The principle of herd immunity can't be argued against it's been proven multiple times. The fact estimates of percentages have changed alters nothing. Also of course people like him are an undermining factor as their the reason herd immunity has not been met or variants exist, to begin with.

[brewer]

If only more would step up.

No Vax, No Visit: South Florida Doctor Won't Treat Unvaccinated Patients in Person: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/no-v...n/2544042/

Communication from the doctor to her patients is in the article.

[Fireball]

If only more would step up.  

No Vax, No Visit: South Florida Doctor Won't Treat Unvaccinated Patients in Person: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/no-v...n/2544042/

Communication from the doctor to her patients is in the article.

I have no problem with that. She has every right to reduce the amount of risk in her life.

[brewer]

Parts of Idaho rationing hospital care to "those most likely to survive".

[The Architect Of Fate]

Parts of Idaho rationing hospital care to "those most likely to survive".

Wait, A Red State enacting death panels? 

[Fireball]

Parts of Idaho rationing hospital care to "those most likely to survive".

Now, if only the medical people could screen for whether the patient had been vaccinated, and exclude the unvaccinated population from treatment, based on the threat to the medical people's well-being. That may seem cruel, but I have to say that it would be fair. "Don't come to my hospital, if you don't accept current medical knowledge. What treatment do you see here that is not based on the same knowledge?"