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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 6:20 pm
(September 12, 2021 at 4:07 pm)Helios Wrote: (September 12, 2021 at 12:55 pm)Spongebob Wrote: This thread is just the same arguments as he made before on a different thread. What the heck? If you get schooled once, why would you sign up to do it again and again? My suggestion, take it up with someone who can actually affect reality. No one here likely has any real influence on what people drive. Run for office if you're so hot and bothered by it. Yup the same cynical mindset, And his only fucking solution is something that's already been shown to be wrong multiple freaking times 
Population control will not work
It's worse than cynical; it's more like willful ignorance.
Are you saying he promotes population control? That's hilarious. How's that supposed to work? China tried that and the entire rest of the world called them evil for doing it. You couldn't convince a handful of Americans to limit their reproduction. Talk about rioting. These southern rednecks would truly revolt if you threatened to limit their grandbabies. To note, I personally believe having more than 2 children is irresponsible, but I wouldn't touch that issue with a 40 1/2 foot pole.
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 6:31 pm
(September 12, 2021 at 6:20 pm)Spongebob Wrote: (September 12, 2021 at 4:07 pm)Helios Wrote: Yup the same cynical mindset, And his only fucking solution is something that's already been shown to be wrong multiple freaking times
Population control will not work
It's worse than cynical; it's more like willful ignorance.
Are you saying he promotes population control? That's hilarious. How's that supposed to work? China tried that and the entire rest of the world called them evil for doing it. You couldn't convince a handful of Americans to limit their reproduction. Talk about rioting. These southern rednecks would truly revolt if you threatened to limit their grandbabies. To note, I personally believe having more than 2 children is irresponsible, but I wouldn't touch that issue with a 40 1/2 foot pole. China had the right idea. Countries should set a dignified limit on their populations.
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 6:35 pm
(September 12, 2021 at 6:31 pm)Ahriman Wrote: China had the right idea. Countries should set a dignified limit on their populations.
It's an honorable idea, but not compatible with liberal democracy. The US tinkered with the idea half a century ago and that is now considered a dark and onerous experiment. It won't happen again in our age.
Now if you can get church leaders to promote the idea, you might have a chance.
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 6:43 pm
(September 12, 2021 at 6:35 pm)Spongebob Wrote: (September 12, 2021 at 6:31 pm)Ahriman Wrote: China had the right idea. Countries should set a dignified limit on their populations.
It's an honorable idea, but not compatible with liberal democracy. The US tinkered with the idea half a century ago and that is now considered a dark and onerous experiment. It won't happen again in our age.
Now if you can get church leaders to promote the idea, you might have a chance. Sounds like I've got some letters to write.
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 8:03 pm
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(September 12, 2021 at 6:31 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (September 12, 2021 at 6:20 pm)Spongebob Wrote: It's worse than cynical; it's more like willful ignorance.
Are you saying he promotes population control? That's hilarious. How's that supposed to work? China tried that and the entire rest of the world called them evil for doing it. You couldn't convince a handful of Americans to limit their reproduction. Talk about rioting. These southern rednecks would truly revolt if you threatened to limit their grandbabies. To note, I personally believe having more than 2 children is irresponsible, but I wouldn't touch that issue with a 40 1/2 foot pole. China had the right idea. Countries should set a dignified limit on their populations.
Setting limits isn' t the answer.
Promoting voluntary sterilization and getting rid of child rearing subsidies might go further.
But nobody will go along with practical solutions. (Neither the SO or I have kids - BY CHOICE.)
So we are doomed as a species.....
Keep churning out babies you happy breeders.....
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 8:27 pm
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Population control is not practical in the slightest. It's the biggest fucking pipe dream ever for solving climate change
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-s...vironment/
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2019/sep/16/au...n-control/
It's Neo Malthusian bullshit that's doomed to fail 
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 9:38 pm
Doing nothing for climate while simultaneously cutting off aid to impoverished children. What could go wrong?
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 9:38 pm
Well, there seems to be some population control going on even in the USA, compared to the past
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 10:28 pm
(September 12, 2021 at 9:38 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Doing nothing for climate while simultaneously cutting off aid to impoverished children. What could go wrong? What was OLB bluster that about EV advocates hating the poor again?
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RE: Something for nothing
September 12, 2021 at 10:30 pm
Apparently we can only subsidize oil - not child rearing.
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