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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 7:16 am
(November 4, 2021 at 3:03 am)nottheone Wrote: UPDATE: just came across a verse in Deuteronomy that tells rape victims that they have to get married to their rapists, anxiety going down...
Yep, reading the bible is often the cure for religious bullshit.
Oops, got ahead of myself, preaching before saying HOWDY.
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 8:55 am
(November 4, 2021 at 1:41 am)nottheone Wrote: (November 4, 2021 at 1:37 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Hello.
whatsup
It's the welcome thread.
You seemed down.
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 2:28 pm
Welcome! I was raised Pentecostal and really, really believed. I didn't go straight to atheist, but after I gave up on the Bible being inspired by God, I still had anxiety over my previous beliefs similar to what you describe. It diminished over time and now it really never occurs to me. I had open heart surgery 20 years ago and God never crossed my mind until the hospital chaplain came around afterwards to check on me and see if I needed any prayin'. I had been an outright agnostic atheist around five years at that point.
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 4:09 pm
(November 3, 2021 at 10:53 pm)nottheone Wrote: So just to make things short. Grew up catholic. converted atheist in middle school. went back to christianity at 18. now an atheist at 22. I made some promises to god while I was a believer and im afraid even though I do not believe a god exists im afraid he is going to do something about these promises and guide me in this direction regardless and its giving me a ton of anxiety. could anyone help further re instate the lack of existence of the Old Testament deity.
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 4:12 pm
(November 4, 2021 at 3:03 am)nottheone Wrote: UPDATE: just came across a verse in Deuteronomy that tells rape victims that they have to get married to their rapists, anxiety going down... yes this immoral cunt is so immoral he cant be real lol
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 4:20 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2021 at 4:30 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Terrible people exist. They're real. I wouldn't waste any time comforting myself with the fiction that any person is so bad they can't exist - I'd lean into the fact that I don't give a shit how real terrible people are.
Their realness doesn't commit to them, and so too...a gods realness wouldn't commit me to a god's terribleness.
There's this wonderful little scene in last samurai (of all things), wherein billy connelly talks about an assault he was planned to be part of, but..he retorts. "what's this we business...it's walking papers for me".
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 4:52 pm
(November 4, 2021 at 4:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Terrible people exist. They're real. I wouldn't waste any time comforting myself with the fiction that any person is so bad they can't exist - I'd lean into the fact that I don't give a shit how real terrible people are.
Their realness doesn't commit to them, and so too...a gods realness wouldn't commit me to a god's terribleness.
There's this wonderful little scene in last samurai (of all things), wherein billy connelly talks about an assault he was planned to be part of, but..he retorts. "what's this we business...it's walking papers for me". yea but an all moral god who rewards rapists
is an oxymoron
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 5:03 pm
It probably isn't, it just means that this god is a flawed moral agent, like steve down the way.
Do you live your life the way Steve Down The Way says you should?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 5:12 pm
(November 4, 2021 at 5:03 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It probably isn't, it just means that this god is a flawed moral agent, like steve down the way.
Do you live your life the way Steve Down The Way says you should?
I dont know if this Steve person is real but probably not
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RE: NEW HERE HAVING CRISIS
November 4, 2021 at 5:17 pm
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That's sort of the point. Assume Steve is real. Do you do what Steve says because he says it...? When is that ever actually true in your life?
If you thought about it, you'd realize that there are all sorts of horrible shitbags who absolutely do exist and that has absolutely no power to make you do what they want you to. It never did...not even when you were a believer.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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