Alec Baldwin Shooting

[onlinebiker]

Baldwin says he did not pull trigger - 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/alec...59907.html

BULLSHIT!!!!!!

Early single action revolvers must have the hammer pulled back to fire. Furthermore - it is highly unlikely to fire if pulled to less than half cocked and released- as the spring is not under enough tension to cause the firing pin to hit the primer hard enough for ignition - that is the PURPOSE of the half cock. And if fully cocked only pulling the trigger will release the hammer.

Modern single actions have a transfer bar - and will fire ONLY if the trigger is pulled with the hammer cocked. 


FAR MORE LIKELY - is his memory of the event have adapted to relieve himself of the guilt as result of his stupidity. Or he is lying.

Yeah, that seems more than a little sketchy. Sounds like something he said on the advise of counsel (if so, he needs better lawyers).

Boru

It might well serve as his defense - if his lawyer can pack the jury with uneducated folks who can be made to believe " the gun just.went off".

Spoiler alert - it can' t. Physics trump good acting.

[Rev. Rye]

For what it’s worth, AD Dave Halls also insists that Baldwin never pulled the trigger.

"Dave has told me since the very first day I met him that Alec did not pull that trigger," Halls' attorney, Lisa Torraco, told ABC News' Kaylee Hartung in an exclusive interview airing Thursday on "Good Morning America." "His finger was never in the trigger guard."

https://abc13.com/rust-shooting-alec-bal.../11293016/

Make of that what you will. Maybe he’s lying, maybe he and Baldwin have changed their memories to keep themselves sane, maybe he unconsciously pulled it, or maybe the gun was just in that shit of a condition that it developed a hair trigger. We don’t know for sure yet.

[onlinebiker]

For what it’s worth, AD Dave Halls also insists that Baldwin never pulled the trigger.

"Dave has told me since the very first day I met him that Alec did not pull that trigger," Halls' attorney, Lisa Torraco, told ABC News' Kaylee Hartung in an exclusive interview airing Thursday on "Good Morning America." "His finger was never in the trigger guard."

https://abc13.com/rust-shooting-alec-bal.../11293016/

Make of that what you will. Maybe he’s lying, maybe he and Baldwin have changed their memories to keep themselves sane, maybe he unconsciously pulled it, or maybe the gun was just in that shit of a condition that it developed a hair trigger. We don’t know for sure yet.

Nope.

He pulled the trigger. It may be a hair trigger - but it still will not " just go off".

The only way to get a single action to fire (without pulling trigger) once the sear engages would be to hit the gun' s hammer with a large hammer - breaking off the sear. If that happened the sear would not engage again - being rather evident.

[brewer]

Alec is stating he pulled the hammer back (not to the point of cocking) and released it without his finger on the trigger. That's how it fired. (CNN)

Wonder how many more times the story will change?

[onlinebiker]

Alec is stating he pulled the hammer back (not to the point of cocking) and released it without his finger on the trigger. That's how it fired. (CNN)

Wonder how many more times the story will change?

It would be an easy thing to confirm or disprove.


Multiple attempts with the gun could be made with a variety of different primed cases. If the half cock is correct, it will catch the dropped hammer before the hammer can be pulled back far enough to have enough energy to ignite the primer.

About the only way I could see it happening is if someone installed a very high rate hammer spring - something very unlikely - as doing so would give the trigger a very heavy pull.

[brewer]

Alec is stating he pulled the hammer back (not to the point of cocking) and released it without his finger on the trigger. That's how it fired. (CNN)

Wonder how many more times the story will change?

It would be an easy thing to confirm or disprove.


Multiple attempts with the gun could be made with a variety of different primed cases. If the half cock is correct, it will catch the dropped hammer before the hammer can be pulled back far enough to have enough energy to ignite the primer.

About the only way I could see it happening is if someone installed a very high rate hammer spring - something very unlikely - as doing so would give the trigger a very heavy pull.

Or if the trigger/notch was defective.

[onlinebiker]

It would be an easy thing to confirm or disprove.


Multiple attempts with the gun could be made with a variety of different primed cases. If the half cock is correct, it will catch the dropped hammer before the hammer can be pulled back far enough to have enough energy to ignite the primer.

About the only way I could see it happening is if someone installed a very high rate hammer spring - something very unlikely - as doing so would give the trigger a very heavy pull.

Or if the trigger was defective.

How so?

[brewer]

Or if the trigger was defective.

How so?

Trigger does not effectively engage notch. i.e. broken tip, broken/worn down notch

[onlinebiker]

How so?

Trigger does not effectively engage notch. i.e. broken tip, broken/worn down notch

A broken engagement? I suppose - but it would be pretty obvious - when the hammer would not stay cocked.....

And ultimately?

It really makes no difference. He still pointed a loaded gun at someone and fired it. He is still guilty of negligent homicide.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Mr Baldwin really needs to shut the fuck up. What's the matter with him? Doesn't he have a lawyer? Even if he hasn't been charged, he might be, so he needs to button it.