Maximizing Moral Virtue

[arewethereyet]

My main question is what should we do to ensure that our children inherit good moral values? 

First, we have to keep them away from screens as much as possible. 

Also, how should we run society and education so that we can ensure that our communities don't fall apart?

Too late.

What, exactly, will keeping kids away from screens do?

Is this the new demon?  The dreaded computer?

[brewer]

Inherit? Moral values are a learned concept based on group/tribe/community/society.

Not really. A good person will tend to behave in pro-social ways, and a bad person will tend to behave in anti-social ways. Those kids who broke into my apartment and nearly killed me (true story) didn't "learn" that behavior from anyone, they're just naturally anti-social and wicked.

And how the fuck is that genetic/inherited and not environmental?

Thanks for continuing to b a dip shit.

[The Grand Nudger]

It'll make it more difficult for them to figure out that the people bitching and moaning about moral decline are it's principal architects.

[Ahriman]

Not really. A good person will tend to behave in pro-social ways, and a bad person will tend to behave in anti-social ways. Those kids who broke into my apartment and nearly killed me (true story) didn't "learn" that behavior from anyone, they're just naturally anti-social and wicked.

And how the fuck is that genetic/inherited and not environmental?

Thanks for continuing to b a dip shit.

There are plenty of people who grow up in less than savory environments and don't become burglars. That shit is a spiritual disposition.

[The Grand Nudger]

Sure, though it does seem to be that duress strongly correlates to maladaptive behavior. Just a fancy way of saying that people aren't great at dealing with shit. Reservations about theft are dulled by need and want. Hesitance towards violence more or less in line with violence they themselves have witnessed or received.

I think brewer was wondering how you concluded that a couple of guys who assualted you during a home invasion were born that way, rather than it being a learned behavior. I've gotta say I'm just as stumped. That's a pretty well known example of learned behavior. We've got the charging documents, criminal histories, and in many cases family histories of the people involved.

[Ahriman]

Psychopathy is a spiritual ailment. Anti-social people (psychopaths) will cause trouble at the expense of others regardless of upbringing or environment.

[The Grand Nudger]

More questions from that, and no answers. How have you concluded that people..or some people...are born bad? Then, how have you determined that environment has no effect on the future states of people born good or born bad?

Additionally, if this is all true, then what could the soul forge do about it?

[brewer]

And how the fuck is that genetic/inherited and not environmental?

Thanks for continuing to b a dip shit.

There are plenty of people who grow up in less than savory environments and don't become burglars. That shit is a spiritual disposition.

Environment =/= equal genetic you dumb shit.

[arewethereyet]

Psychopathy is a spiritual ailment. Anti-social people (psychopaths) will cause trouble at the expense of others regardless of upbringing or environment.

No, it isn't.

Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior.

Psychopathy: Developmental Perspectives and their Implications for Treatment - PMC (nih.gov)

[Jehanne]

So for this topic we will be accepting the premise that God isn't real, okay now what?

My main question is what should we do to ensure that our children inherit good moral values? Also, how should we run society and education so that we can ensure that our communities don't fall apart?

Here is the leading evangelical Christian apologist defending the murder of little children: