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(December 1, 2011 at 8:27 pm)Egor Wrote: I find it interesting that you expect Christians to act with Christian morality while at the same time you are opposed to Christianity. You seem to think people should behave like Christ, but then hate Christianity. Does that dichotomy bother you?
It's fucking hypocrisy that I hate.
Quote:Wacko beliefs? Christianity is 2000 years old. Countries have been built on it, Kings kneel before it, the whole of Western Civilization is built upon it, the very world you enjoy living in. Sorry, but you sound like the wacko, not me.
Oooooohh... 2000 whole shitty years. Are you too fucking wacko to know that 2000 years is nothing compared to how long more ancient gods were worshiped? Get a clue. Christianity hasn't been around very long at all in comparison. I can tell that you really want to come off as a smartass, but you're just making yourself look like a dumbass to those of us who have done a little research. Get over yourself.
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Quote:I, for one, don’t want to see the world turned into the old Soviet Union or 1950’s China. That’s why I’m opposed to it. And I don’t want to see individuals lead down a spiritually dead path. But I come in here for the stimulating conversation.
So you're a paranoid wacko... interesting. Some people don't need spirituality. We don't care what you don't want to see. I don't even believe in "spirituality" in the sense that you speak of, and who is to say that your type of spirituality is right for all individuals?
Quote:It’s a warning, not a wish, and I didn’t invent Christianity. So, it’s not that you don’t agree with me; it’s that you don’t agree with Jesus Christ, and I happen to think the teachings of Jesus Christ are true.
I agree with very little Jesus supposedly said. So what?
You didn't invent xtianity, but someone did. It was a man with a serious personality disorder. So, it's safe to say that it could have been you, but you were just born too late. Pity.
Quote:I wonder why atheists are so anti-Christian?
OH for fuck sake! Here we go yet again. Are trolling or are you really that stupid?
An atheist is only a person who does not believe in gods,period.
SOME atheist are ALSO anti theist and anti Christian.Most people here are neither.We ARE anti-ignorance of the kind your posts display.
Me? I could not care less about your personal superstitions as long as you obey the law and stay out of my face. Coming here,to an atheist forum and asking stupid,ignorant and provocative questions constitutes getting in my face.
Do I hate you? of course not, I don't know you well enough to hate you. For all I know,you may well be a good decent person who is kind to children and other small animals. I'm annoyed by the content of your posts,not at you personally.
It kind of makes me want to reply with x answers for a while. Xmas xtians, x almighty, Jesus X, X, you're stupid, etc. Don't worry, I won't troll. The thought of it just amuses me.
Quote:When a Christian debates with an atheist, it has to be realized that you will never win the argument in the classic sense. In other words, the atheist will never admit defeat or concede a point.
Instead they will resort to an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack is when they have to resort to a personal insult in order to make their point. For example:
Christian: “The universe shows a great deal of order; therefore, its existence implies an intelligent creator.”
Atheist: “Only idiot would believe that.”
When the atheist resorts to insults, you have won. What’s important to realize is that continuing to debate beyond that point diminishes your victory. It makes you look small and needy. When an atheist resorts to insults, the argument is over and they have lost it. That is when you need to claim victory and end the debate with that person. Insults in debate indicate a complete exhaustion of ideas.
Of course, this only applies if you, yourself, have not resorted to insults. If you are insulting the person you’re debating, you can’t expect them not to insult back. Whoever throws the first insult in a debate between a Christian and an atheist is the loser.
So, in atheist debates:
Rule#1: Do not personally attack the atheist.
Rule #2: Claim victory and walk away when the atheist insults you.
Here to "win" some debates?
Oh, this is fun.
Quote:Furthermore, it makes no difference what evidence or arguments are presented to an atheist, they want to disbelieve in God (usually for sexual reasons) so they will simply deny whatever they are shown--even the clear order of the universe.
December 1, 2011 at 10:06 pm (This post was last modified: December 1, 2011 at 10:07 pm by popeyespappy.)
(December 1, 2011 at 9:50 pm)Shell B Wrote: Is this you, Egor?
Quote:When a Christian debates with an atheist, it has to be realized that you will never win the argument in the classic sense. In other words, the atheist will never admit defeat or concede a point.
Instead they will resort to an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack is when they have to resort to a personal insult in order to make their point. For example:
Christian: “The universe shows a great deal of order; therefore, its existence implies an intelligent creator.”
Atheist: “Only idiot would believe that.”
When the atheist resorts to insults, you have won. What’s important to realize is that continuing to debate beyond that point diminishes your victory. It makes you look small and needy. When an atheist resorts to insults, the argument is over and they have lost it. That is when you need to claim victory and end the debate with that person. Insults in debate indicate a complete exhaustion of ideas.
Of course, this only applies if you, yourself, have not resorted to insults. If you are insulting the person you’re debating, you can’t expect them not to insult back. Whoever throws the first insult in a debate between a Christian and an atheist is the loser.
So, in atheist debates:
Rule#1: Do not personally attack the atheist.
Rule #2: Claim victory and walk away when the atheist insults you.
Here to "win" some debates?
Oh, this is fun.
Quote:Furthermore, it makes no difference what evidence or arguments are presented to an atheist, they want to disbelieve in God (usually for sexual reasons) so they will simply deny whatever they are shown--even the clear order of the universe.
LOL! That’s funny Shell. Not for what he said there but for what he wrote a couple of post below that one where he was whining about being banned from the .com forum. Edward claims he was banned for the contents of a particular post. It’s a bald faced lie. He was banned for being a sock.
Lying Egor? Very Christian of you.
(December 1, 2011 at 9:51 pm)aleialoura Wrote:
(December 1, 2011 at 9:48 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Found yet another forum to troll Egor?
Oh, so you've encountered this lovely little xtian before! Tell me, is coming onto an atheist forum asking dumb fucking questions his standard MO?
Shit, I forgot to put up a link for that quote. If anyone is reading his funny thread, please throw a link in here for me. If not, I'll do it in a few minutes.