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The Absurd GOP
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 (November 27, 2022 at 7:39 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(November 27, 2022 at 7:38 pm)Dio Wrote: Advocating legislation being passed as an EO when it couldn't pass Congress seems rather "anti democratic". How is not "representative"? Are you referring to gerrymandering?
That certainly doesn't exhaust the ways a politician can fail in their duty, but it's one way a system can fail it's people, sure. It seems like we have a good working definition of anti democratic going, eh?
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 Quote:Both parties can be the party of "No". But kudos are being okay with a dictatorship as long as it's to get over the "opposition party". How about Dems pass law voiding all the Republican seats, that why they can democratically run the country unimpeded.But right now only one party is. And saying the president is allowed to use the EO when congress refuses to function as intended is hardly advocating dictatorship.
"Change was inevitable"
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"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:57 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2022 at 7:58 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Whose opponents? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't both of our political parties supposed to be working for..well..us? Pitching us on different paths to reach our common goals, that sort of thing? What would you call it if some political party had made itself into an opponent of the american people, or of american interests? I'm thinking there's a term for that.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(November 27, 2022 at 7:47 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That certainly doesn't exhaust the ways a politician can fail in their duty, but it's one way a system can fail it's people, sure. It seems like we have a good working definition of anti democratic going, eh? So, for instance, you would agree that Illinois congressional map is "anti democratic", even though it favours Democrats, since it has an F from the Princeton Gerrymander Project?
Sure, and...?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(November 27, 2022 at 7:52 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:Both parties can be the party of "No". But kudos are being okay with a dictatorship as long as it's to get over the "opposition party". How about Dems pass law voiding all the Republican seats, that why they can democratically run the country unimpeded.But right now only one party is. And saying the president is allowed to use the EO when congress refuses to function as intended is hardly advocating dictatorship. Yes, advocating for unilateral executive power, especially in regard to legislation, would entail advocating for a dictatorship. RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:06 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2022 at 8:06 pm by Dio.)
Quote:Yes, advocating for unilateral executive power, especially in regard to legislation, would entail advocating for a dictatorship.No advocating that the president should be allowed to use another legal mechanism to pass legislation when congress has become stagnated by partisanship is not advocating for a dictatorship. It's advocating the government actually gets something done.
"Change was inevitable"
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