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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:34 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 7:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 7:15 pm)Dio Wrote: What specifically is meant by "anti democratic" and "anti american"?
They're both such specific words it's hard to imagine why they'd have to be argued. I'm obviously not suggesting, for example, that they don't like stamps and do like bnbs on the french coast.....?
Anti democratic, and anti american. That's my issue with the gop. That's what makes them seem so absurd, to me, as an american political party.
So....no specifics?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:34 pm
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Obviously, I think that the very last bunch of nutjobs that should have the power of the us government are anti democratic anti american nutjobs.
You're free to fill it in with whatever you like, but... again, the words aren't some great mystery.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:38 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 7:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 7:15 pm)Dio Wrote: What specifically is meant by "anti democratic" and "anti american"?
They're both such specific words it's hard to imagine why they'd have to be argued. I'm obviously not suggesting, for example, that they don't like stamps and do like bnbs on the french coast.....?
Anti democratic, and anti american. That's my issue with the gop. That's what makes them seem so absurd, to me, as an american political party.
Advocating legislation being passed as an EO when it couldn't pass Congress seems rather "anti democratic".
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:38 pm
Quote:The point is obviously more power.
Nope balance
Quote:If you want to talk about pushing "radical" policies, there were House Dems (Jayapal) suggesting Biden enact the BBB by executive fiat because it couldn't pass Congress.
An infrastructure bill is hardly radical and the only he had to do that is because Republicans kept stonewalling him
Quote:What makes them "lunatics"? The recent Dobbs decision didn't make abortion illegal, it just made it a state issue. Also, the MS abortion law was literally on par with France.
Yup and making it a state issue was the first step to its illegality and just because it's done in France doesn't make it not insane.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:39 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 7:38 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 7:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: They're both such specific words it's hard to imagine why they'd have to be argued. I'm obviously not suggesting, for example, that they don't like stamps and do like bnbs on the french coast.....?
Anti democratic, and anti american. That's my issue with the gop. That's what makes them seem so absurd, to me, as an american political party.
Advocating legislation being passed as an EO when it couldn't pass Congress seems rather "anti democratic".
Well, depends on whether that congress is representative, but sure, in principle...and?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:41 pm
Quote:Advocating legislation being passed as an EO when it couldn't pass Congress seems rather "anti democratic".
Only when the opposition party has no interest in running a country and just wants to screw everything up so they can get their spot on OAN and whine about what a bad job the current administration is doing so they can get their base mad so they can get more votes next election.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:42 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 7:38 pm)Helios Wrote: Quote:The point is obviously more power.
Nope balance
Quote:If you want to talk about pushing "radical" policies, there were House Dems (Jayapal) suggesting Biden enact the BBB by executive fiat because it couldn't pass Congress.
An infrastructure bill is hardly radical and the only he had to do that is because Republicans kept stonewalling him
Quote:What makes them "lunatics"? The recent Dobbs decision didn't make abortion illegal, it just made it a state issue. Also, the MS abortion law was literally on par with France.
Yup and making it a state issue was the first step to its illegality and just because it's done in France doesn't make it not insane.
Your idea of "balance" requires more power. So..more power.
An "infrastructure bill". 
Let me guess, what's not "radical" is abortion up until birth and legally allowing neglect for abortion survivors to they die.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:45 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 7:41 pm)Helios Wrote: Quote:Advocating legislation being passed as an EO when it couldn't pass Congress seems rather "anti democratic".
Only when the opposition party has no interest in running a country and just wants to screw everything up so they can get their spot on OAN and whine about what a bad job the current administration is doing so they can get their base mad so they can get more votes next election.
Both parties can be the party of "No". But kudos are being okay with a dictatorship as long as it's to get over the "opposition party". How about Dems pass law voiding all the Republican seats, that why they can democratically run the country unimpeded.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:45 pm
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Would you consider that anti-american, the bit about abortion?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 7:46 pm
Quote:Your idea of "balance" requires more power. So..more power.
Nope my idea is power simply to counter power
Quote:An "infrastructure bill".
So no argument then..... 
Quote:Let me guess, what's not "radical" is abortion up until birth and legally allowing neglect for abortion survivors to they die.
Up to birth isn't radical it's consistent and no one arguing abortion survivors be neglected that's a bullshit talking point.
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