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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 7, 2023 at 2:11 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:Who gave USA rights to get simply involved in to election process of foreign nation?
Who needs to give said right?

Was victoria nuland and her colleagues actions were legal in your opinion?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 7, 2023 at 2:13 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:
(May 7, 2023 at 2:11 pm)Helios Wrote: Who needs to give said right?

Was victoria nuland and her colleagues actions were legal in your opinion?
I'm hard-pressed to find a law that says they aren't allowed to be involved at all.
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 7, 2023 at 2:14 pm)Helios Wrote:
(May 7, 2023 at 2:13 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Was victoria nuland and her colleagues actions were legal in your opinion?
I'm hard-pressed to find a law that says they aren't allowed to be involved at all.

USA goverment wanted people in Ukraine goverment that will be beneficial to their interests. And we are talking about the strong country bordering Russia. Thats so diplomatic and peace loving. Not provoking at all.  Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:USA goverment wanted people in Ukraine goverment that will be beneficial to their interests. And we are talking about the country bordering Russia. Thats so diplomatic and peace loving. Not provoking at all...
Again simply being involved is not a provocation and again NATO already has members that border Russia that's also not a provocation. Sorry, this line of reasoning doesn't work and sure as hell doesn't give Russia the right to invade other countries.  Hehe Hehe Hehe Hehe Hehe Hehe Hehe Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 7, 2023 at 2:24 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:USA goverment wanted people in Ukraine goverment that will be beneficial to their interests. And we are talking about the country bordering Russia. Thats so diplomatic and peace loving. Not provoking at all...
Again simply being involved is not a provocation and again NATO already has members that border Russia that's also not a provocation. Sorry, this line of reasoning doesn't work and sure as hell doesn't give Russia the right to invade other countries. Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy Dodgy

As if we can do something about empires deciding who is the top dog.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:As if we can do something about empires deciding who is the top dog.
In the case of Russia, we can stop them from taking over Ukraine so things can be done. The idea that they should be allowed to do as they please is not a wise idea.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 7, 2023 at 2:30 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:As if we can do something about empires deciding who is the top dog.
In the case of Russia, we can stop them from taking over Ukraine so things can be done. The idea that they should be allowed to do as they please is not a wise idea.

But West has opened pandora box. Invading other nations became a new norm... Russians has said it themselves "If you can invade foreign nations, why we can't invade?".
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:But West has opened pandora box. Invading other nations became a new norm... Russians has said it themselves "If you can invade foreign nations, why we can't invade?".
Whataboutism and Russia have been invading nations longer than America has existed. It's not like America invent invasions.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(May 7, 2023 at 2:38 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:But West has opened pandora box. Invading other nations became a new norm... Russians has said it themselves "If you can invade foreign nations, why we can't invade?".
Whataboutism and Russia have been invading nations longer than America has existed. It's not like America invent invasions.

I am talking about post WW2 period. Creation of UN. The noble ideas behind it. It was all fake, from russians point of view, because West does what it wants. I am russian, born in EU. I can see the russian side of conflict.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:I am talking about post WW2 period. Creation of UN. The noble ideas behind it. It was all fake, from russians point of view, because West does what it wants. I am russian, born in EU. I can see the russian side clearly.
And Russia did lots of invasions in repressions in that period too. And again your statement is simply Whataboutism
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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