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Why did Communists promote Evolution?
#91
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 4:11 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: @Nishant

Quote: Descendants of the ape, lol. Reminds me of what Piers Compton documented in the Broken Cross, which I'll cite in a minute. Btw, if any of us are actual descendants of the ape (we aren't), then, logically, it would follow, some of our descendants could be apes as well. This is what Evolutionists in Evo-Devo call "Devolution". Wiki: "Devolution, de-evolution, or backward evolution is the notion that species can revert to supposedly more primitive forms over time." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devolution_(biology)

And if anyone actually thinks human beings will give birth to apes again one day, he/she is kidding himself/herself. Yet this is what evolution/devolution would lead to. All these fallacies/sophisms come from failing to distinguish Accidental and Essential/Substantial Changes. The difference between Apes and Human Beings is an Essential/Substantial difference. It is never going to be traversed just by throwing in even billions of years if you want. Now, the difference between different kinds of humans - different genetic properties of those who are and remain biologically and genetically human beings - is an accidental difference. Only these kinds of differences will take place through natural selection. Humanity did not evolve from apes, which is to say apes did not give birth to humans. Neither will humans ever devolve to apes; those are all similar evolutionist errors.

These two paras are enough to amply demonstrate that you simply don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Devolution is utterly discredited - there simply is no such thing. If it happened, it would require evolutionary processes to operate in reverse along exactly the same path (source: the Wikipedia article YOU linked). This is impossible, both mathematically and biologically.

Nothing in any evolutionary theory states, implies, or even hints at apes giving birth to humans. By saying these startlingly ignorant things, you're not actually attacking evolution - you're attacking what evolution isn't and never has been.

Read through those TalkOrigins links I gave, as well as other articles on that site. It behooves you to learn more about evolution, if for no other reason than to stop making an ignorant ass of yourself where everybody can see.

Boru
I concur, the fool has ab-so-fucking-lutely no idea what he is talking about.

Also from the article HE linked (bolding mine)
Quote:The idea of devolution is based on the presumption of orthogenesis, the view that evolution has a purposeful direction towards increasing complexity. Modern evolutionary theory, beginning with Darwin at least, poses no such presumption,[1] and the concept of evolutionary change is independent of either any increase in complexity of organisms sharing a gene pool, or any decrease, such as in vestigiality or in loss of genes

Its breathtaking how often this dumbass uses the word "logic" and tries to calculate stuff, yet he is posting exclusively unreasonable BS and is applying math completely wrong to anything he is rambling about.

Its so bad, it almost smells like *sniff* *sniff*....like poe.
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#92
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 2:26 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Good. The sooner religion is done, the better.

Meanwhile, study some biology.
Note that his response didn't actually refute what you wrote
"Change was inevitable"


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#93
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 3:31 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(July 27, 2023 at 2:16 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: You claim there is no such thing as de-evolution then describe de-evolution. If you think humans could again become apes, there's nothing left to say.

Sigh. Evolution means change and one can not de-change. It is all change (evolution). De-evolution is a cultural expression, not biological.
The funny thing though is humans are already apes so we wouldn't need to become apes we are already apes.
"Change was inevitable"


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#94
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfDF5Ew3Gc








Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

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#95
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 6:44 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfDF5Ew3Gc



I mean it's even more then that humans are apes
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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#96
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 6:46 am)Helios Wrote: [quote='Bucky Ball' pid='2158530' dateline='1690454650']
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfDF5Ew3Gc

I mean it's even more then that humans are apes

The fact that primates are all related is far too advanced for this one.  Hehe Hehe Hehe
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

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#97
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 6:50 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(July 27, 2023 at 6:46 am)Helios Wrote:
(July 27, 2023 at 6:44 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfDF5Ew3Gc

I mean it's even more then that humans are apes

The fact that primates are all related is far too advanced for this one.  Hehe Hehe Hehe
It’s been said - with a lot of justification - that if extraterrestrials came to Earth and started classifying life, part of it would be:

Gorillas - the big apes

Orangutans - the red apes

Chimps - the smaller apes

Humans - the smooth apes

It’s no accident that every single method of classifying life on this planet - cladistics, genetics, morphology - places humans firmly among the apes. We aren’t just related to apes. We ARE apes.

Boru
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#98
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 8:06 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s been said - with a lot of justification - that if extraterrestrials came to Earth and started classifying life, part of it would be:

Gorillas - the big apes

Orangutans - the red apes

Chimps - the smaller apes

Humans - the smooth apes

It’s no accident that every single method of classifying life on this planet - cladistics, genetics, morphology - places humans firmly among the apes. We aren’t just related to apes. We ARE apes.

Boru
No....No ..... That's the devil Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#99
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 12:47 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: 3. Angrboda, as I mentioned and documented, some 250 publications for over 40 years used Piltdown Man to try argue against the Special Creation of the First Human Couple. They irrevocably destroyed the Faith of millions, for which they will have to give account to Almighty God. They falsely tried to use this as evidence in their Anti-Christian Scopes trial; they claimed it as the missing link for a long. And it was a Hoax! Then they quietly buried it as though nothing was out of the ordinary. This is like a Sherlock Holmes Murder Mystery. The people behind it are trying to kill not your bodies, but your souls. It's up to you to be wise enough to figure that out in time to go to Heaven. The evidence is clear.

Now, let me re-quote the salient excerpt from Williams around 1930: "While Wells says the bones of 100,000 horses were found in a single locality, Dr. Ales Hrdlicka says that the bones of 200,000 prehistoric horses were found in another place. Why should we not find, for the same reason, the bones of millions of ape-men and ape-women in 750,000 years? Instead of millions we have the alleged fragments of 4, all of which are of a very doubtful character."

In other words, Williams argues that the number of the alleged fragments of Piltdown man are so small - 4 instead of millions - that there's very good reason to believe there were not actual alleged ape-men over millions of years, and Piltdown man was a Total Hoax, as it was proven to be.

None of that demonstrates that Piltdown Man was a hoax. So your saying that he exposed the Piltdown Man as a hoax is just you telling more lies. I'm guessing that thou shalt not bear false witness is your favorite commandment as you honor it in the breach so often.

(And IIRC, Darwin answered Williams' objections long before he made them. Apparently, your Williams was an ignoramus.)
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RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
(July 27, 2023 at 8:06 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We ARE apes.

Boru

"C'mon, you apes! You wanna live forever?" (Opening quote from Starship Troopers, Robert Anson Heinlein.)
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