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The biggest scandal in history
#11
RE: The biggest scandal in history
(August 11, 2023 at 8:33 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Watergate and Jan 6 are the biggest scandal in all history?   Come on,  to say a big scandal in a country that had barely existed for 1/25 as long as recorded civilization, and had exerted wide culture, economic and political influence for far shorter than that, would constitute the biggest scandal in history is a bit lacking in perspective?

Well, there was that one time when the Pope encouraged people to kill every cat on sight for being familiars of witches and the Black Plague soon followed on the back of gnats on the back of rats, but the audit trail there is sketchy.
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#12
RE: The biggest scandal in history
(August 11, 2023 at 8:48 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Well, there was that one time when the Pope encouraged people to kill every cat on sight for being familiars of witches and the Black Plague soon followed on the back of gnats on the back of rats, but the audit trail there is sketchy.

It's scandalous that people still repeat this as if it were true. 

It's not true.
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#13
RE: The biggest scandal in history
Yeah, it is scandalous since Pope Gregory IX did much more scandalous things like started Papal Inquisition, condemned Jews to inferior status, led crusades, ordered the burning of books, and other crimes against humanity to focus on something that he may not have done (killing cats).
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#14
RE: The biggest scandal in history
Capitalism.
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#15
RE: The biggest scandal in history
(August 11, 2023 at 11:48 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: Capitalism.

Maybe, but do you think there is any better solution?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#16
RE: The biggest scandal in history
Zelensky has fired Ukraine's military recruitment chiefs, because they were taking cash to let people get out of military service.

Not the biggest scandal in history. Not even surprising.
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#17
RE: The biggest scandal in history
(August 11, 2023 at 8:33 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Watergate and Jan 6 are the biggest scandal in all history?   Come on,  to say a big scandal in a country that had barely existed for 1/25 as long as recorded civilization, and had exerted wide culture, economic and political influence for far shorter than that, would constitute the biggest scandal in history is a bit lacking in perspective?

And your candidate would be...?

Boru
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#18
RE: The biggest scandal in history
(August 11, 2023 at 11:54 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(August 11, 2023 at 11:48 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: Capitalism.

Maybe, but do you think there is any better solution?

That’s part of the scandal.
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RE: The biggest scandal in history
(August 12, 2023 at 4:35 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 11, 2023 at 8:33 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Watergate and Jan 6 are the biggest scandal in all history?   Come on,  to say a big scandal in a country that had barely existed for 1/25 as long as recorded civilization, and had exerted wide culture, economic and political influence for far shorter than that, would constitute the biggest scandal in history is a bit lacking in perspective?

And your candidate would be...?

Boru

Akhenaten’s monotheistic heresy,  the Alcibiades affairs, Sulla’s coup, Caesar’s assassination, Theodosius’ edict of Thessalonica,  Venetian sacking of Constantinople, inter caetera issued by pope Alexander VI, the Spanish subjugation of the Inca Empire, those are just the ones in western history before the founding of the United States, that 1000 years hence, might well still be seen as more influential on long term course of world events than the very existence of the United States, much less any scandals within it.
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#20
RE: The biggest scandal in history
You guys are hilarious. No, Watergate is not the biggest scandal in American history. Not if you're aware of anything the CIA has ever done.
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