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China and Russia's presidents -both- absent from the G20
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RE: China and Russia's presidents -both- absent from the G20
Quote:Do you know how much high speed rail China has built in that time?
You think China's high-speed rail is good That's adorable. Just overlook the cheap construction and rushed methods of building that will in the long run come to bite China in the ass. I'll take rail that takes 30 years and is done right to thousands of miles done badly.

As with everything in China, it's all CCP hype made to look good for the camera and underneath is the ugly truth.
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RE: China and Russia's presidents -both- absent from the G20
(September 11, 2023 at 8:42 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:
(September 11, 2023 at 12:11 am)WinterHold Wrote: No wonder Xi dodged the slap of attending this American-Western demolition for the Chinese "New Silk Road".
Biden is declaring a new World War; now we have 2 sides:

1-China & Russia on one end with their own economical road
2-America and its allies on the other end with their own economical road.

Traditionally World Wars begin with fewer announcements.  The first one began when Germany crossed into Belgium, unannounced.  The second one began when German crossed into Poland, unannounced.

China is and has always been only it's own side. 
The Chinese have always considered themselves the Heavenly Kingdom. 
They are not interested in Russia or anywhere else. 
It will be interesting post Xi if they give a shit about anying or anyone else. 
They have built beautiful gleaming cities in a few years. They don't need anyone else.
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RE: China and Russia's presidents -both- absent from the G20
(September 11, 2023 at 8:42 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:
(September 11, 2023 at 12:11 am)WinterHold Wrote: No wonder Xi dodged the slap of attending this American-Western demolition for the Chinese "New Silk Road".
Biden is declaring a new World War; now we have 2 sides:

1-China & Russia on one end with their own economical road
2-America and its allies on the other end with their own economical road.

Traditionally World Wars begin with fewer announcements.  The first one began when Germany crossed into Belgium, unannounced.  The second one began when German crossed into Poland, unannounced.

actually germany crossing into poland wasn’t exactly unanticipated.    The Germans made it abundantly clear to every one that’s where they will go next after absorbing the rest of Czechoslovakia.    there were all sorts of announcements from both sides further pointing the way, with the Nazis making a big propaganda push alleging gross mistreatment of ethnic germans in poland and in particular danzig, and the British and French giving security guarantees to Poland, and the Soviets approach Britain and France for a anti-german alliance, rebuffed, approaching Hitler for nonaggression pact.

the surprise wasn’t germany attacked poland, but just how quickly germany were able to overwhelm poland, and the fact that ideological mutural nemisis Nazi Germans and soviet Russia managed to come to something or an understanding.
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RE: China and Russia's presidents -both- absent from the G20
(September 11, 2023 at 9:32 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(September 11, 2023 at 8:42 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Traditionally World Wars begin with fewer announcements.  The first one began when Germany crossed into Belgium, unannounced.  The second one began when German crossed into Poland, unannounced.

China is and has always been on only it's own side. 
The Chinese have always considered themselves the Heavenly Kingdom. 
They are not interested in Russia or anywhere else. They already have perfection. 
It will be interesting post Xi if they give a shit about anything or anyone else. 
They built beautiful gleaming cities in a few years. They don't need anyone else. 
They may have a combination of "freedom" and obligation that may be different, but god-damn, it works for them. 
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

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RE: China and Russia's presidents -both- absent from the G20
(September 11, 2023 at 9:32 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(September 11, 2023 at 8:42 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Traditionally World Wars begin with fewer announcements.  The first one began when Germany crossed into Belgium, unannounced.  The second one began when German crossed into Poland, unannounced.

China is and has always been only it's own side. 
The Chinese have always considered themselves the Heavenly Kingdom. 
They are not interested in Russia or anywhere else. 
It will be interesting post Xi if they give a shit about anying or anyone else. 
They have built beautiful gleaming cities in a few years. They don't need anyone else.

In that case you need to see this map and read the article:

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BBC Article

Blue is the logical borders. Red is what (the alternative to the West, Better option for Africa, new supplier of money to developing nations, absolutely non-expansionist and peace loving, Kingdom of the sky) China is claiming.

 

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RE: China and Russia's presidents -both- absent from the G20
(September 25, 2023 at 10:18 am)Leonardo17 Wrote:
(September 11, 2023 at 9:32 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: China is and has always been only it's own side. 
The Chinese have always considered themselves the Heavenly Kingdom. 
They are not interested in Russia or anywhere else. 
It will be interesting post Xi if they give a shit about anying or anyone else. 
They have built beautiful gleaming cities in a few years. They don't need anyone else.

In that case you need to see this map and read the article:

[Image: Other-MapSouth-China-Sea.jpg?itok=99WIm9WX]

BBC Article

Blue is the logical borders. Red is what (the alternative to the West, Better option for Africa, new supplier of money to developing nations, absolutely non-expansionist and peace loving, Kingdom of the sky) China is claiming.

 


China is clearly harassing its southern neighbors and its rhetoric according to which “The US is responsible for all the tension in the region” is very similar to the Russian rhetoric on almost any issue (like the Russian involvement in West-Africa for instance).
 
 https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/202...-world.cnn
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RE: China and Russia's presidents -both- absent from the G20
(September 25, 2023 at 10:18 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: Blue is the logical borders. Red is what (the alternative to the West, Better option for Africa, new supplier of money to developing nations, absolutely non-expansionist and peace loving, Kingdom of the sky) China is claiming.
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