Palestine

[The Architect Of Fate]

Except you have been going on about death

[The Grand Nudger]

Sounds like a functional description of what it's about for hamas.

[LinuxGal]

You’re jumping the gun: the Gaza obliteration isn’t scheduled until next week.

Boru

I don't think there is a "schedule"; the Israeli army is terrified from the ground attack; thus they're trying their best to massacre the whole strip from air first.

If their goal is just to massacre people they're doing it wrong by sending evacuation orders first.

[Deesse23]

That an average of a little over 300 a day. At that rate, the Israelis will never destroy Gaza by next week, so it looks like I was wrong. Unless they step it up (nukes, probably), it'll take them roughly 20 years to kill everyone in Gaza.

Boru

It's not about killing everybody. It's about provoking Iran to attack them + kicking Palestinians to Egypt.

And i thought it was about "ethinc cleansing". Some guy on an atheist forum told me. Silly me.

[FrustratedFool]

Why would Israel want Iran to attack? That seems a little counter-intuitive.

As for Palestinians being relocated to Egypt, what is the downside from that?

[Deesse23]

Why would Israel want Iran to attack?

Please, dont.......too late.

[Leonardo17]

Uhem.   Pol pot.   Armenian genocide.

I agree that the 1998 definition of the U.N. is more correct.
 

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But if I wanted to defend my idea, I would say that (for instance) things like ethnic cleansing or slavery or even mass incarceration of minority group (The US is said to have 20/25% or the world’s prison population although it represents merely 5% of world population) are serving some sort of rational purpose although none of it is defendable either.
 
But Nazi atrocities go beyond that. In my past I saw some very graphic images, read all these books on the issue. But even by remembering the life of Anne Frank you can tell that something was wrong with these people. And I don’t care whatever pseudo-scientific and/or ideological explanation they have. At the end of the war many of them committed suicide, being completely unable to acknowledge and yes “Yes I did this. So what is the punishment for that?”.
 

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And that makes the Nazi Atrocities the number one type of Crime against humanity. I think we can agree with that.

[Leonardo17]

Israeli forces have killed 266 Palestinians mostly in the southern part of the Gaza Strip in the past 24 hours, a health ministry spokesman says.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/...ge-release

And the Qataris are blaming Israel for everything.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/enough-enough...34040.html
 
I don’t like this type of political approaches when human lives are in danger. If there are Palestinians who want to stay back and fight fine! Let them stay and fight and the entire Arab world is free to join in if they want to. But that Rafah crossing must be more than opened to let everyone else move out. These are all ethnic Arabs. I would be called all the names in the world if I started sending Syrians back to Syria. These guys are using people as a mean of punishing Israel 

[Leonardo17]

So, the 1400+ Israelis killed by Hamas is immaterial, I suppose? Where’s YOUR humanity?

Boru

Israel killed 4000 + civilians in Gaza in 2 weeks only. Thousands -if not Millions- across the years.

Graphic imagery + videos are really harmful to everybody’s brain. On a personal level, I try to avoid watching very violent movies + horror movies as well. I rarely watch the news immediately before going to bed. I rarely start the day by reading the news.
 

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One of the methods of mass hypnosis (I loved reading stuff like in the late 90’s when the internet was a relatively new phenomenon), is to make the rational part of the human brain become inactive by causing you to be highly emotional. It can be Anger at the Israelis, it can be a sense of enormous admiration when you see the Fuhrer standing there right in front of you. At that moment the subconscious mind becomes wide open. Then you can start putting all sorts of inputs into the brain.
 
In the 2000’s there were perverted religious sects like that. They would gather you in a conference hall, make you watch videos with all sorts of subliminal messages. If one wanted to leave, they would stay “Would you like to wait until the end of the movie?”. So there are people who happen to be that smart from the moment of their birth
 

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But as I said before: Reading is better than seeing. And I’m saying this for this and all sorts of highly violent events in the world.

[Leonardo17]

Again, the numbers don’t count. Hamas launched a terror campaign, Israel responded with war crimes. If both sides had restricted their attacks to non-civilian targets (police stations, military installations, etc), I’d likely give Hamas the moral edge, given Israel’s abominable treatment of the Palestinians.

Since they didn’t, I won’t.

Boru

Also, the asymmetry in how well-equipped the IDF and Hamas are might account for the  disparity in their respective body counts.  As I've mentioned numerous times, Hamas' own charter has spelled out that their end goal is genocidal. If they had as much weaponry as the IDF, there's no way in Hell Israel would have killed three times as many people as Hamas did.

You know, the Hizbollah in the north is said to be Hamas x 20 (or 30) in terms of capability in the north. I don’t know if the IDF can afford to go into Gaza right now because of that. And that’s why Biden warned his Allie on that while sending aircraft carriers to the region.
 
So the situation is very asymmetric for Israel as well. I wish there was a way to go back to the Oslo Agreement in 1993