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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 4:02 pm
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Oh look, the yo-yo's back.
Perhaps if you offered something that we can try to refute it would be start. All you have given us so far are cut 'n' paste jobs, mined quotes from famous scientists, downright lies that have been exposed as such at the click of a mouse and pseudointellectual psychobabble about gematria and bible codes. Oh, and let's not forget all the insults you've hurled around yourself. Even if someone - i.e. everyone - does try to counter your 'proof', you pull a roadrunner and disappear over the hill promising and failing never to return.
Let's play your game for a moment. Fring, fring p'tah ecky ecky ecky god is a mushroom dear me that pest Miriam Stoppard's eating all my rhubarb again nyuck nyuck nyuck nyuck nyuck screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek. Now prove me wrong using logical facts and evidence.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 4:12 pm
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(December 22, 2011 at 1:53 pm)jimenez Wrote: Mathematicians have discovered that The bible is written in a mathematical pattern called Gematria and is encrypted unlike any other book in history. A universal language based on mathematics.
God's universal Language is the bible.
God created everything by number, weight and measure.
Isaac Newton
Mathematics is a universal language and a language by which God speaks. It is a fact that mathematicians like
Isaac Newton and theologians like E.W. Bullinger discovered the bible to be written in a intelligent mathematical Design far superior to man's capability. Today, the requirement of computers is needed to reveal the hidden truth. A study was done at the university of Jerusalem that gives proof to the discovery by Mathematicians.
Galileo Galilei said, 'The universe cannot be read until we have learned the language and become familiar with the characters in which it is written. It is written in mathematical language, and the letters are triangles, circles and other geometrical figures, without which means it is humanly impossible to comprehend a single word. Without these, one is wandering about in a dark labyrinth'.
Mathematicians like Euler and Borel used their mathematical expertise to discover God and were somewhat successful. But they were no were near as successful as Isaac newton and Bullinger.
1. Leonhard Euler: formula( ei*pi + 1 = 0 ) also know as "God’s formula".
2. Borel, Emil robability and Life formula
Mathematical signatures or patterns are inherent to the very structure of nature and the universe. While we use our language of mathematics to describe these patterns and all of the precise fine-tuning found in the universe, the mathematical ratios themselves seem to be design evidences: a universal language, unchanging throughout time or place; too precise and nonrandom to be products of chance.
These are just a few examples of Mathematics and God: Φ=Phi = (1.6180339887...) is a number found in universal pattern an a irrational number like pi.pi is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter (3.141592653...) pi= π is an irrational number, which means that its value cannot be expressed exactly as a fraction having integers in both the numerator and denominator (unlike 22/7). Consequently, its decimal representation never ends and never repeats. π is also a transcendental number, which implies, among other things, that no finite sequence of algebraic operations on integers (powers, roots, sums, etc.) can render its value; proving this fact was a significant mathematical achievement of the 19th century. Phi and pi are both ratios defined by particular Euclidean geometries, with phi being the division of a line "so that the ratio of the lesser part to the greater part is the same as the ratio of the greater part to the whole." Phi's abundance in the universe has earned it names such as the Golden Section, the Divine Proportion, the Golden Ratio, and the Golden Mean. This ratio phi can be found in many natural constructs such as in human and animal proportions (i.e., the arrangement of physical features). Phi relationships can be found in DNA, among the planets of the Solar System (as in Kepler's Laws), and so on.
I recommend for all of you to read Number in Scripture by E.W. Bullinger.
He followed Newton study of the mathematical intelligence behind the bible.
Another good book on the subject is :
The Signature of God
By Grant R. Jeffrey
The laws of mathematics (a universal language) proves the existence of a intelligent being we humans call God.
God Bless.
I will waste a bit of time to give you the benefit of the doubt by following any links you post. I will not go out and buy the books, however.
(December 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm)jimenez Wrote: All i heard were complaints, but yet no one has proven me wrong using logical facts and evidence against my proof.if all you have is insults for a reply, then I will go to a real atheist forum were other atheist will at least try to prove me wrong. I will give you guys another try.
Finally! Yes! Please, go somewhere else.
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 4:32 pm
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(December 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm)jimenez Wrote: I will go...
Smartest thing you've said yet.
(December 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm)jimenez Wrote: All i heard were complaints, but yet no one has proven me wrong using logical facts and evidence against my proof.
That's because we aren't credulous fools that think numerology is a useful science.
EDIT: oops
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Oh, we're incredulous, alright. That's his problem.
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 4:54 pm
(December 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm)jimenez Wrote: All i heard were complaints, but yet no one has proven me wrong using logical facts and evidence against my proof.if all you have is insults for a reply, then I will go to a real atheist forum were other atheist will at least try to prove me wrong. I will give you guys another try.
You can take any large book, convert it into numbers and get interesting patterns and seeming predictions, and that's without having been written by people who had a thing for gematria and may well have deliberately used it to put codes in the Bible, no supernatural explanation needed.
Show that the Bible contains better 'coded' information than War and Peace and THEN you have the bare beginning of an argument.
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 5:09 pm
(December 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm)jimenez Wrote: All i heard were complaints, but yet no one has proven me wrong using logical facts and evidence against my proof.if all you have is insults for a reply, then I will go to a real atheist forum were other atheist will at least try to prove me wrong. I will give you guys another try.
Bring forth evidence that isn't 400 years old, or just cobblers, or plain irrational and illogical and myself and some considerably smarter members will answer, but whilst you come forth with something of little substance or something you have copied and pasted, you shall be continually treated with the contempt your lame arguement deserves.
I recommend a dose of thunderf00t.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 5:43 pm
(December 22, 2011 at 1:53 pm)jimenez Wrote: God's universal Language is the bible.
How? Why?
The only argument you could possibly have is that it is printed in hundreds of different languages, but than again, so is Harry Potter.
And actually if the catholic church had it their way, the bible would still only be legible to the clergy and the insiders. Men like Martin Luther are the ones that slowly made god's language "universal" - as you say.
Furthermore, it was gods word that helped the Israelites defeat the Philistines and the Amorites and the Amalakites and a host of other nations ..... what happened to your god's universal language then? God's love doesn't extend to the poor bastard who was born to Philistine parents???
Fuck you and your god. I'd have already dropped the ban hammer on you if it were solely up to me.
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Quote:All I heard were complaints, but yet no one has proven me wrong using logical facts and evidence against my proof
For goodness sake. We need prove NOTHING.That honour belongs to you 100% as the person making the claims (the term is 'burden of proof'.Look it up)
'logical fact"? A fact is logically neutral,it simply "is". The inferences (conclusions) drawn from a fact may be logical or illogical.
So far you have proved nothing.
Why have you come to an atheist forum? Can you possibly be as ignorant as you present, or are you a troll,or a rather dim 12 year a old?
Bored now
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Okay, jiminez, how many lies do you have to tell? How ridiculous does it have to get before you see that religion is fictitious?
*sigh*
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RE: Why the bible is the word of God.
December 22, 2011 at 7:24 pm
(December 22, 2011 at 7:20 pm)Freedom Wrote: Okay, jiminez, how many lies do you have to tell? How ridiculous does it have to get before you see that religion is fictitious?
*sigh*
Unfortunately, most people won't ever see sense. Billions are just wasting their lives.
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