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Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
Quote:I'm saying that people shouldn't make assumptions about the beliefs on others based upon the perceived color of their skin.
No you make your beliefs quite clear without it 



Quote:If you want to hold me to some "homophobic remarks" you will first have to demonstrate what remarks were homophobic - again, I'm not interested in digging myself out of an imaginary hole you created in your mind, that sounds stupid as fuck and more boring than plucking ball hairs.
Considering you just compared homosexuality to rape, pedophilia  and murder ......Yeah he's the one who sounds stupid  Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 15, 2024 at 5:41 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 15, 2024 at 5:39 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: I said the current Syrian government

Right - which is Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham, headed by al-Jolani.
Yup but again in their current role as the Syrian government
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 15, 2024 at 4:59 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(December 15, 2024 at 4:40 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: That a small percentage of humans behave in an unnatural behavior does not make it "natural" in any moral or practical sense; there would be many crimes that would be "normal" (happen often) that we still would not consider normal.


We have already discussed the fact that Christians believe in the concept of free will, I will not be repeating myself.

How about just shut the fuck up completely?
Remember he's a victim  Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 15, 2024 at 5:32 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 15, 2024 at 5:27 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Which hasn't happened despite your constant interpretation of everything being a racist

Stating that I believe certain things because "white" is in my name 

Oh I think we have some posts from you that are unequivocally racially biased, your name doesn't feature. Your claim that it's ok for poor people in slums to die from gun violence for example, and the objective evidence of the demographics of who lives in slums. Is it possible you still don't realise when you're making racist epithets?


Quote:stop playing the victim and thinking everyone is out to get you, it makes you behave really irrationally.
Some self awareness on your part, might diminish the irony of that assertion. 
Quote:explains why you support pro-crime politicians like Harris
A sweeping generalisation fallacy if ever there was one.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 15, 2024 at 4:40 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 15, 2024 at 12:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The human species, like all other mammals, has a certainly percentage of homosexual/bisexual members. The fact that homosexuals are a minority in no way implies that their sexuality is unnatural, any more than blue eyes being in the minority means that we with blue eyes are genetically-modified.

That a small percentage of humans behave in an unnatural behavior does not make it "natural" in any moral or practical sense; there would be many crimes that would be "normal" (happen often) that we still would not consider normal.

Nonsense. Nature is full of oddities and one-offs, and they are just as natural as the standard models.

(December 15, 2024 at 4:40 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: We have already discussed the fact that Christians believe in the concept of free will, I will not be repeating myself.

... mainly because wat you tried to pass off as cogent argument was shown to be fatally flawed. That you believe in bullshit is no argument that your bullshit isn't, well, bullshit.

You're digging another hole here. The only reason you think homosexuality is unnatural is because homosexuals don't share the majority sexuality. You were born with an abnormally low number of neurons. Are you unnatural?

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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
I note once again he has yet to demonstrate homosexuality is unnatural
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 15, 2024 at 4:40 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(December 15, 2024 at 12:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The human species, like all other mammals, has a certainly percentage of homosexual/bisexual members. The fact that homosexuals are a minority in no way implies that their sexuality is unnatural, any more than blue eyes being in the minority means that we with blue eyes are genetically-modified.

That a small percentage of humans behave in an unnatural behavior does not make it "natural" in any moral or practical sense; there would be many crimes that would be "normal" (happen often) that we still would not consider normal.
I don't think unnatural means what you think it means, but homosexuality occurs throughout nature, thus by definition it is "natural". Parenthetically posting on an internet forum is demonstrably unnatural, and yet you seem fine with that behaviour, go figure. 
Quote:Then, too, you're entirely ignoring the fact that you, who claim that your god created everything, must accept that he created homosexuals too. Is any part of your god's creation "unnatural"? How is it your "perfect" god should create these damnable souls? Were they a surprise?

We have already discussed the fact that Christians believe in the concept of free will, I will not be repeating myself.
It's a fact that some people believe the world is flat, though of course it is also a fact that the world is not flat. And being gay is not a choice people make, that's just homophobic bigotry, that bigotry however is a choice people make, as is the adherence to a religion.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 15, 2024 at 6:08 pm)Sheldon Wrote:
(December 15, 2024 at 5:32 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Stating that I believe certain things because "white" is in my name 

Oh I think we have some posts from you that are unequivocally racially biased, your name doesn't feature. Your claim that it's ok for poor people in slums to die from gun violence for example, and the objective evidence of the demographics of who lives in slums. Is it possible you still don't realise when you're making racist epithets?


Quote:stop playing the victim and thinking everyone is out to get you, it makes you behave really irrationally.
Some self awareness on your part, might diminish the irony of that assertion. 
Quote:explains why you support pro-crime politicians like Harris
A sweeping generalisation fallacy if ever there was one.
But ...But the evil Atheist are racists  Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 15, 2024 at 5:30 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: ISIS and Al Qaeda are/were two Islamic Jihadi groups of the Middle East that caused us a lot of problems over the last two decades - they have been fairly checked in your life time, but for awhile there they were the "Russia/China" of importance and we even went into the countries they had established strongholds in to check their power; you might remember the American withdrawl of troops from Afghanistan a few years and the Talibans' assumption of power there?
That isn't why we went to war in the middle east.  We went to war in the middle east to show our power, not check anyone else's.  Neither group caused us much trouble even at their height compared to the domestic terrorists that have always been with us and remain so today.  The ones that captured a weak republican party and have you here playing woke olympics.

I largely agree with the rest of that post though - I also think that there are groups of people who have demonstrated that they are not our friends and cannot be trusted. Magats, for example.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 15, 2024 at 6:26 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: I note once again he has yet to demonstrate homosexuality is unnatural
There is plenty of research demonstrating that homosexuality occurs naturally among many species, thus by definition it is natural. The real irony of course, is the false equivalence that equates natural with good, and unnatural with bad, after all there is absolutely nothing natural about Christianity, it is entirely manmade...as are computers, and the internet, and he seems fine using those.
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