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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 19, 2025 at 11:27 pm
(March 19, 2025 at 11:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (March 19, 2025 at 12:27 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Well there goes Mr. Trumps ceasefire
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukrai...rcna197017
But you see Putin respects Trump................................................. 
What's amazing is how weak Trump is, that Putin is willing to humiliate Trump and demonstrate this by ignoring his entreaties for a ceasefire- and Trump says nothing because he is either so intimidated by Putin or is secretly on his payroll.
Which case matters, when the results are the same?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 19, 2025 at 11:47 pm
(March 19, 2025 at 11:27 pm)Fireball Wrote: (March 19, 2025 at 11:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: What's amazing is how weak Trump is, that Putin is willing to humiliate Trump and demonstrate this by ignoring his entreaties for a ceasefire- and Trump says nothing because he is either so intimidated by Putin or is secretly on his payroll.
Which case matters, when the results are the same?
Intimidation only lasts so long, but being bought off probably lasts longer. Of course, Trump may well be bough off precisely because he's been intimidated and is now beartrapped.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 31, 2025 at 7:51 am
Detailed article here from the NYTimes, detailing the extent to which the US participated in the war. They weren't just shipping weapons, they were picking targets, planning strategy.
https://web.archive.org/web/202503300809...baden.html
It was the US fighting Russia, with Ukrainians doing the dying part.
The reporters have clearly talked to some high-level people. Now that the war is winding down, they will be looking to assign blame.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 31, 2025 at 10:18 am
(March 31, 2025 at 7:51 am)Belacqua Wrote: Detailed article here from the NYTimes, detailing the extent to which the US participated in the war. They weren't just shipping weapons, they were picking targets, planning strategy.
https://web.archive.org/web/202503300809...baden.html
It was the US fighting Russia, with Ukrainians doing the dying part.
The reporters have clearly talked to some high-level people. Now that the war is winding down, they will be looking to assign blame.
It's a shame we didn't do more.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 31, 2025 at 10:33 am
(This post was last modified: March 31, 2025 at 10:36 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
Nope all this shows this is a war between Ukraine and Russia with the US giving strategies and targets to hit also the war isn't even close to over yet what are you smoking Bel?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 31, 2025 at 11:05 am
(March 31, 2025 at 7:51 am)Belacqua Wrote: Now that the war is winding down,
War is winding down?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 31, 2025 at 11:14 am
(March 31, 2025 at 7:51 am)Belacqua Wrote: It was the US fighting Russia, with Ukrainians doing the dying part. The North Korean dictator wants to have a word with you. Kadyrov has called as well. Same for the people of Luhansk, Donetsk, and various russian mercenary groups. Oh, talking about Russians...ethnic Russians are a small minority of all russian casualties. Want to guess which parts of the overall population of Russia are over and which under-represented again? Want to make a guess for what reason?
You forgot to mention all of this? One starts to wonder why.........or maybe not.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 31, 2025 at 11:29 am
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 31, 2025 at 1:53 pm
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Quote:President Trump said he is “very angry” and “pissed off” at remarks Russian President Vladimir Putin made Friday about Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, suggesting he is not a legitimate leader.
The president threatened to slap a new tariff on Russia if it is at fault for stalling an end “to bloodshed.”
“If I feel, if we’re in the midst of a negotiation, you could say that I was very angry, pissed off, when Putin said yesterday that — you know, when Putin started getting into Zelensky’s credibility, because that’s not going in the right location, you understand?” Trump told NBC News’s Kristen Welker during a phone interview on Sunday.
The Russian president said Friday that his Ukrainian counterpart does not have the legitimacy required for a peace deal signature and suggested an interim government is needed, The Associated Press reported. Ukraine’s 2024 presidential elections were postponed due to martial law amid the war with Russia.
Putin said any agreement signed on to by Ukraine’s government could receive pushback.
“Under the auspices of the United Nations, with the United States, even with European countries, and, of course, with our partners and friends, we could discuss the possibility of introduction of temporary governance in Ukraine,” he said Friday, according to the AP, later saying that “democratic elections, to bring to power a viable government that enjoys the trust of the people, and then begin negotiations with them on a peace treaty” would be able to happen via the temporary governance.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...a-ukraine/
1) We only have about $3.6b in trade with Russia. What the fuck is a tariff going to solve?
2) I'm shocked, nay, gobsmacked that @ Belacqua has not mentioned anything about how Russia is dragging its feet on any peace agreement even as he accuses the Ukrainians and Americans of wanting to keep fighting.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 31, 2025 at 2:16 pm
Putin could show up at the peace treaty signing, burn the peace treaty , give a Nazi salute, declare himself the second coming of Hitler, say he wants to kill everyone in Ukraine and then wage a war of Lebensraum across Europe to bathe in the blood of European children and somehow Bel would make this the wests fault
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